Can anyone give me some advice?

Hey everyone ive got a matte thats a semiprofessional photographer and he will do me 2 sessions of photos 1 like he allways dose but the 2nd one will be more hoter and with a girl in some photos with me now muy question is can i get anything good out of it in tearms of girls and stuf like that will i have more preselecion or anything or it will be on the contrairy only bad things?

Hey everyone ive got a matte thats a semiprofessional photographer and he will do me 2 sessions of photos 1 like he allways dose but the 2nd one will be more hoter and with a girl in some photos with me now muy question is can i get anything good out of it in tearms of girls and stuf like that will i have more preselecion or anything or it will be on the contrairy only bad things?

Hey Jdog, or anyone else who can help me with this.

I have recently decided to undertake the task so many others have in becoming a more social guy when it comes to women, and I am new to the game.

I want to know what you guys think is best in becoming a more confident person.
I have just read The Venusian Arts Handbook, and I am soon to read Strauss's Game, but what is better; reading all the books I can so as I have some background understanding behind social psychology, or just reading a couple of books and then going out to practice socialising?

I would like to have read DD's Double your Dating, The Game and Conquer your Campus (I am a uni student) before mid-spring this year, but I dont know what other books to follow up with also, so I guess this is a 2 part question.

1. a. Practice with a limited set of skills and understanding, or
    b. Read as much as I can so I am well prepared by the time I start getting out there more.
(Bearing in mind that social f-ups can make a difference when at university with a low population...)

and finally
2. What books do you guys recommend?

Thanks in advance! :)
-Swan

I know that Mystery is 6"5'
Dunno about the other 2 ;)

Hey Guys'


For many of you out there practicing, you may head out several times a week and for a while you get better, numbers, kiss closes and then the occasional full close. Then your success seems more stilted, it seems harder to work out where you are and even what to work on next.
I’ve met many of you guys in my last 2 years in the community both practicing and more recently, teaching. The one thing that stands out the most are guys that never learnt the correct habits, they never learnt the fundamentals that were necessary for their success and whilst they can get to a limited and in some cases, good level, it’s ultimately their bad practices that are holding them back.
What makes this even harder to fix is that if you’ve been going out, week in and week out sarging, then you’ve most likely engrained these bad habits, they are part of how you present yourself and consequently they can be very difficult to fix or even notice without conscious persistence.
The worst part of all is that without feedback from a good wing or an instructor at a decent level you may never realise the mistakes you are making. This is why we have to use all the feedback mechanisms available to us when we learn PU.
There are several feedback mechanisms, such as the way girls respond to you, forums and your wings. The problem is that each of these by themselves is never enough to give you a complete picture but rather pieces of feedback that you may be ignoring.
It’s also important to cultivate a mentality shift, a lot of guys learn this and go: “Oh… I got a blow out, next!” This is helpful when you have just started out approaching but not useful for getting you the skill set.
Instead we want to ask, ‘How can I improve this?” If she got dragged away by her girlfriend how can you stop that from happening next time? Now not everything set will be winnable, if a girl gets dragged away by her boyfriend then pretty much no one can solve that interrupt but you get the idea.
If there is a fix available you should learn it and implement it. Your mentality become “How can I do this better / faster / more consistently?”
The steps we can take right now:
Step 1: Recognize the pattern
There is simply no substitute for going out infield and clocking up usable field time either alone or with a coach / good wing or solo. However we can take steps to minimise the mistakes being made. The most simple way is through drills and exercises you can do today to help you maximise everything from body language to contingencies.
Solving Body Language: Walk up to a mirror (or a good wing) and get a critique on just your opener. Did you smile when you walked up? Were you loud enough? Did you lean in? Did you kino on the open? Any weird or extraneous body movement? There are a couple 100 mistakes you can make just on the walk up. Fix them before you even go out to meet women.
Vocal Projection: Go somewhere private, put on some music, turn it up loud and practice projecting your voice.
Learning to move Forward: Write FR’s, after every night you get back and note down what you did write and what you did wrong and where your sticking points are. Then when you go out next, make sure you go out with the goal to work on the issues you need to solve.
Infield Reactions: You need to always observe why the girls are blowing you out, and never leave a set unless the girl walks away or verbally tells you to leave. This is the test of your verbals and subcomms. Ideally on a night out. To really push yourself you want to be in set 90% of the time.
If something goes wrong infield then work out if it was something you were putting out there or just a product of the environment you were sarging in. In essence be analytical and work on yourself.
Step 2: Break it
Once you’ve acquired real feedback on what patterns and mistakes are repeating themselves, it’s time to break that habit. This is simply having two things:
1) A plan of what you are going to work on
2) Conscious effort and a few sets.
Remember it takes time for a new habit to become engrained over the old one, just like anything else, much like when you try to stop holding a glass in front of your chest you’ll have to be ever present to stop yourself from flicking back into your old habits.
More Basics To Unlearning your Mistakes or Rules:
1) Choosing a method and sticking to it.
If you are anything like me when I first started I would read all the methods, all the forums and take in all the advice. The problem was it caused a never ending loop of information overload. I had a head full of advice, often completely contradictory, and I’d always be working on trying a new idea out every week when I was still having trouble opening and getting attraction completely. As you can imagine this was an instant fail.
2) Get a stack
You need a good stack that will complete the attraction stage, get a GTG stack because it alleviates 90% of approach anxiety when you know what you’re doing, all I have to do is say “Yo, what’s up!” and I’m in. It also helps you sort out where mistakes are and contingencies. Even naturals have something like “Hi, my name is…”. Ideally create a stack that puts you in a good state and makes you laugh.
3) Know how to handle contingencies and interrupts.I used to roll with two naturals and an MM gamer and none of them could handle interrupts or shit tests at all. They would consistently lose the set because of this and 99% of the time it could be avoided. The best resource for this is the contingencies section of the GTG book because it is just all there and relevant.
4) Expand your comfort zone.
I started going out in-field in June 07, I spent the first 9 months opening and ejecting, and I needed to, my comfort zone was so small that it made me feel good just to talk to a woman back then. I also dramatically changed my look in that time. Realize that if you aren’t pushing yourself you won’t get results but if you push yourself a little even if it takes a full year, you will grow.
5) Have set daysYou need to set days or times to go out  and not allow yourself to stay home. These are sarge night, no excuses, no I feel tired or out of state. These are full on hardcore 90% of time in set nights and you don’t take AFC friends who you’ll end up talking to all night.
6) Self-correct and evaluate.
Never getting past attraction? Why? Read the appropriate resources, study it, seriously make notes on it. It’s amazing what you will miss on a simple read through. Always work out why attraction died, or comfort failed. Sometimes there is nothing you can do, but make sure that it’s not on your part. This is best done in FR’s or when you get home. NOT THE NEXT DAY.
7) Don’t over-browse resources
Once you’ve picked your resource don’t read every technique or forum because you’ll get sucked into other peoples thinking style and get stuck questioning what you are doing. Information overload is a very real problem in the community today. Remember once you get your basic game down you can start adding in new pieces from anywhere.
So, what this all boils down to is fundamentals, whether we are learning PU or basketball these are what make or break our results. Take any professional sport, the top guys all have there fundamentals down, it’s what separates them from the guys that look good until you get them in a competitive environment, the guys with the fundamentals always win.
Expect a period of failing before you get good.
Well that it Guys I hope that helps.

As always I wish you all the BEST
Vision

PS:  Thanks  David C

Hey Guys,

If meeting women in the daytime is something you’re interested in READ ON.
In my opinion, this is what you need to know to get out there and start meeting people outside of a nightclub environment.
 A while back I had the oppertunity to attend a great seminar on DAY GAME with Jeremy aka Soul who is a excellent PUA and a true master of DAY GAME. He was able to break down for me his philosophey on DAY GAME
Opening
I find the greatest consistency and satisfaction using direct openers such as:
‘Excuse me, I saw you from over there.and I’d regret it all day if I didn’t come met you. Because you look absolutely gorgeous. (EXTEND HAND TO SHAKE) Hi, I’m Keychain, what’s your name?’
Direct openers like this (recently popularized by Sebastian Drake, Soul, Dr.Yen etc.) usually open quite strongly and provide a good platform for you to launch the conversation from. At the very least, it’s nice to say nice things to people – it’ll make you feel good and give her positive emotions too.
There’s nothing wrong with starting a conversation in another style such as indirect, functional, comedic etc. There are lots of examples of these types of openers online and you’ll want to come up with your own as the situation dictates. Here are a few to get you started:
- ‘Hey do you know where the nearest Starbucks is?’- She’s reading a book: ‘What are you reading?’- She’s wearing head/earphones: ‘What are you listening to? I’m bored of my current playlist’ (credit Sasha) – take her iPod and start teasing/appreciating her playlist (my addition).- She’s in a shop or coffee house, deliver with comedy: ‘I saw you from out there and had to come meet you. I just couldn’t let a pane of glass stand between us and true love.’ (Credit Sasha)
If the girl is sat or stationary, you can just walk over to her and deliver your opener. If she’s moving, I’ll always approach from behind, even if it means letting her walk past to get my angle.
To stop a moving set, approach from behind and touch the inside of the elbow gently with two fingers. You can also touch the triceps area or the back of the forearm. Say ‘excuse me’ to get her attention, stop walking as she turns towards you and then deliver your opener.
To further stop her forward momentum and start the transition to conversation, extend your hand to shake hers. Give your name and ask for hers. She will, as most people would, automatically shake your hand and give you her name. From here, you’re ready to transition.
A Common Trap With Direct Openers
Don’t try to solicit a reaction. So many guys get addicted to the big, gushing reactions that you will occasionally get from your direct approaches and ‘look’ for it every time. Instead of being an expression of their personality and core intent, the direct opener becomes a tool to chase a reaction.they deliver it and wait for the big WOW! It’s approval-seeking and not attractive.
Try this frame: Her beauty/vibe/aura moved you to approach. Something in your core just said ‘yes’. So you’re going to go meet her, express your core and see if she’s the kind of girl you might connect with and would like in your life. Self-expression, without the need for approval, mixed with a curious fascination for her as a unique creature.
Transition to Conversation
After opening, I like to stack and cycle through the following transition material until I find a topic that you’re both interested in and can naturally talk about together (what Sebastian Drake calls a ‘click topic’). Perhaps you both enjoy traveling or you both like the movies of a certain director.
To that end, here are three content-questions that you can ask to mine for a click topic.
1)What are doing in London/Oslo/Melrose today? (this also allows you to find out how much time you might have to talk. If she’s rushing to meet friends, better go for the number. If she’s just ’shopping’, you might try for an instant-date later in the conversation)2)What do you do for a living?3)What do you do for fun?

As recommended by Wayne Elise, these can either be delivered statement/question or question/statement. In other words, you might start by talking about what you’re doing in central London and then ask her what she’s up to (statement/question). Or you might ask her first and then answer your own question when she’s done (question/statement). Either way, be prepared to supply the initial content and energy of the interaction.
It’s not unusual for a person to be a little on-guard when approached by a stranger in the street or a coffee shop and give quite short answers. Allow her initial shyness, she’ll warm up as your statements build comfort and convey your attractive personality.
Another conversation technique I enjoy is to talk about a character trait I enjoy, explain why I enjoy it and then ask her if she has it. I came up with this by combining Mr.M’s ideas about high-value frame attraction and Sebastian Drake’s ‘click topics’. This ’soft qualification’ is a great way to add value to a conversation and qualify in a high-value way. The more astute among you may recognize some sexual framing in this material also. Lately I’ve been teaching this at a lot of bootcamps and the results have been so encouraging that I recommend you add this technique to your arsenal.
For example:‘I really like people who travel, I love to travel myself. There’s something about people who travel.there’s an open-mindedness to new experiences and a non-judgmental quality that I really like. Do you like to travel?’

‘I like to surround myself with creative people. They have an energy and a fresh way of looking at life that really energizes me. What do you do for fun?’

If you can’t find a click topic, consider that perhaps the two of you have nothing to click on and are better off moving on to meet other people. With practice, however, you’ll find you can find a way to connect with almost anyone you meet. Remember to listen with curiosity and interest.

Thoughts on Conversation

It’s easy to view interactions with girls as a ‘game’ in which you say certain things, touch your ‘target’ in a certain way to either win or lose the game. This kind of thinking serves to dehumanize the girl who is, after all, a unique person just like you. What if the simple meeting of both of your personalities, opinions and experiences could provide enough content for an attractive, successful conversation?

Don’t forget to be fun and humorous. Tease a little to inject some spice, have fun with the conversation. There’s no need to be intense and serious all the time – in fact, this can be quite creepy! Try a fun role play or future projection, experiment with the attraction materials in Magic Bullets to spice things up. Beware of making these the focus of your content though, remember that you and her are enough to have a great conversation.
Find your own style of interaction. When you meet a man who is successful with girls, by all means copy his style but only to gain an understanding of the underlying principles that make him so successful. Don’t be a clone, you’ll get much better results as a great version of you.

Taking Things Further
Where can you take the conversation after you’re clicking and enjoying one another? Depending on the logistics of the situation, you might try these options:- suggest a future meeting and exchange contact details.- suggest going to get a coffee right then and there.- my first day game approach ended with a hand job in a nearby photo-booth. You could shoot for this if the mood strikes.
Conclusion
The skill of meeting people and having great conversations is a vast one with room for a lifetime of learning and experimentation. It’s a lot of fun and comes with lots of benefits, not least all of the beautiful women you’ll meet!
With this basic information you’ve got all you need to start meeting girls in the daytime. The most important thing you could do with what you’ve read is start applying it in real conversations.
Thats it Guy's. Just remember to check out JDOG's Stuff he offers tons of great MATERIAL.

As always I wish you all the BEST,

Vision
PS Thanks Donvan

Hi guys.

Im very new to PUA. I was obsessed with this girl I was dating for a couple of months last years, and after we broke up (‘im not ready for a relationship’) I was crushed. She said she wasn't ready for a relationship as she had just arrived at uni and just broken up with he ex. A mate of mine told me about the community and the mistakes I had probably made with her and encouraged me to read 'The Game'. I did so and since then i’ve searched the forums and have an understanding of alot of the ideas. (I am failing with implementation though).

I‘ll be honest, I find it difficult at my university in London to be successful with this. I know im new to your world and it can take a long time (I guess you’re always learning anyway) but I need some pointers guys!!

Is there anything specific with British university girls that mean these techniques need to be altered? They seem to be alot harder to impress and alot colder to being approached – even those who are not amazingly attractive act as though they are. I go clubbing alot (mainly on student nights) but I struggle with opening sets. My success over the last 2months has been been dating 4 girls each one I met at a club but we ‘bumped’ into each other at the bars. Part of me feels as though it was just general confidence which helped me with them - thus my new understanding that a club/bar/any venue is just a social dynamic which is winnable has made the whole thing seem less scary.

Im usually pretty confident – have lots of friends and am ‘well known’ at uni – but have a real ‘nice guy’ image. I’m cracking jokes all the time and am very ‘sweet’. I need to know how to publicly change my image. Not drastically, but to be seen as a ‘man’ rather than the ‘funny guy’. I hope this makes sense to you all.

Im writing this really because I bumped into the girl I was seeing last year, yesterday at a coffee shop on campus. We talked for like 20 mins and it was comfortable but it was so general a conersation. I froze in my head, didn’t know how to show I was still really interested, or even if I should. It just reminded me how she got away and that sort of dented my confidence – she was my oneitis, and although I feel there is a chance we could get back together (any tips would be great) I need to know how to fully move on – the only way to do so im guessing is to get out there and meet women!!  

Hey Guys,

A while back when I had first started in the PICK UP Community. I did not understand why I was always getting rejected by women..................... I mean I thought I was doing everything right, but thats because I was an AFC (Average Frustrated Chump) so everything I thought was completely wrong.

So my brothers.................. Read on and find out why.

Most men HATE the idea of “rejection”. I’m not talking about “don’t like the idea” or “wish it didn’t happen”… I’m talking HATE here.

The idea of walking up to a woman and having her REJECT you causes most men to instantly feel sick in the pit of their stomachs and literally feel a horrible combination of nervousness and confusion.

A guy can psych himself up for an hour to go talk to a woman, but when the moment comes to actually DO IT, EVERYTHING changes. The heart rate shoots up, breathing quickens, eyes dart back and forth, thoughts of rejection fill the mind, and eventually the pressure becomes too much to bare.

Most men find this state so scary that they end up deciding to forget about approaching the women… just to end the discomfort. The temptation is great to just “walk away” because just as quickly as the intense nervousness is triggered by the moment one decides to ACT, it goes away when you decide to “forget about it and walk away”.

The fact that “choosing to walk away” leads to the “instant gratification” of the nervous feeling going away makes it the most popular option. Most of the time (and I’m talking about probably 99% of the time here) men just walk away. They give up before they’ve even started.

I find this topic fascinating.

If I just think about it, I can remember MANY times in my past where I wanted to talk to a woman, but I just didn’t do it. In fact, many of them are so vivid that I can remember the exact setting, what the girl looked like, who else was there, etc… and I’m talking about situations that happened YEARS ago.

These moments obviously made an impression.

I can also remember kicking myself for DAYS afterwards for not approaching and talking to these girls. Can you relate?

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACTUAL REJECTION AND THE FEAR OF REJECTION..

I think it’s important to realize that there’s a BIG difference between ACTUAL rejection (having a girl who is offended, upset, rude, etc. to you when you start talking to her) and the FEAR of rejection (how you feel when you imagine a woman rejecting you).

I’ve found that for me PERSONALLY, my FEAR of rejection is actually FAR, FAR more painful and difficult to deal with than ACTUAL rejection in the real world.

The main reason for this is that most of the time when a man starts talking to a woman, she is actually rather nice about the whole affair.

Men aren’t “rejected” very often!

If a woman isn’t interested, she usually just says “I have a boyfriend” or “No thank you”… or she’ll just walk away without saying anything at all.

Out of the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times that I’ve approached women, I can’t remember any time that a woman has yelled “Get away from me you loser! You are unattractive and the very thought of going on a date with you makes me sick to my stomach!”

I’m sure it’s happened to SOMEONE, but it’s never happened to ME.

The worst I’ve had is a woman making fun of the words I used (telling me that my pickup line was lame) or just walking away. No slaps, no boyfriends beating me up, and no yelling. But here’s the kicker…

You can experience an intense FEAR of rejection EVERY time you consider approaching a woman. Imagine, something you can predict with almost perfect accuracy.

You can be in any situation, anywhere, anytime, and still have FEAR of rejection… which will prevent you from approaching a woman. Ah, the power of the human mind.HOW TO DEAL WITH REJECTION…

A lot of guys ask me, “How do I deal with rejection?”.

The answer: Don’t worry about it.

If you get “rejected”, you’ll be fine. Really. It’s no big deal, and it doesn’t happen that often. And when it does, you’ll recover shortly thereafter.

You’ll find yourself telling your friends about it, and laughing together. Rejection from a woman is about as painful as getting a “D” on a test.

It’s basically insignificant. The REAL question is “How do I deal with my FEAR of rejection?”.WHY WOMEN REJECT MEN…

Now let’s talk about those rare instances where a woman actually REJECTS a man.

For the sake of this discussion, I want to define “rejection” as a woman doing something that lets you know that she’s upset and offended that you started talking to her, and she responds in a mean or vicious way to make you go away.

I do NOT consider a woman walking away without stopping to talk to you, her saying “No thank you”, or any other time when a woman just simply doesn’t engage to be “rejection”.

If you DO consider these things to be rejection, please stop reading now, call your mom into your room, and tell her that it’s time you grew up and moved out… and that she’ll get over the fact that she can’t choose your clothes for you and hug you when you have a boo-boo anymore.

I digress…

I’ve found that there are a few main reasons why women actually DO reject men (by the way, it’s VERY rare that I actually get “rejected” anymore… it’s probably happened to me once in the last 100 times I’ve started a conversation with a woman… because I don’t do dumb-ass things anymore).

Here are the main ones:

1. The guy isn’t paying attention, and he does something stupid to begin with.

Some guys think it’s appropriate to walk up to a woman, put their arm around her, and say, “Hey baby, you sure do look hot tonight”.

Some guys don’t see anything wrong with following a woman around all night, staring at her constantly, then walking over with a nervous, sweaty-palmed, stalkerish look and saying, “You remind me of my sister”.

These are bad ideas.

2. The guy doesn’t stop when he should.

If two women are sitting alone at a table in the corner, and one of them is obviously upset, and you walk over to them and say, “Hi, can I buy you a drink?”… and the upset one looks at you and says, “No thanks, we’re in the middle of a conversation” (then looks away from you back at her friend)… and you say, “Aw, cummon, have a drink. You need to lighten up and have some fun”… and she looks back at you and says firmly, “We’re busy”… and you say, “What, are you in a bad mood or something? I’m just trying to buy you a drink”… and she says, “We don’t want a drink”… and you say, “Well maybe your friend does”… and the friend says, “No, I don’t want one either”…

OK, hopefully you get it.

If you ever do something like this, you are a dumb ass, and you deserve to be slapped and have 47 drinks thrown in your lap.

3. Making a woman nervous with your body language.

If you start talking to a woman, but your posture is weak and slumped, your eyes are darting around but not meeting hers, and you’re wearing an unbuttoned flannel shirt with one of the tails tucked in, you’re probably not going to get a favorable response.

If you creep a woman out, things aren’t going to work for you.

4. Not understanding a woman’s body language and other communication.

When you start talking to a woman, she will let you know within a very short time if she’s receptive to talking to you.

If you’ve been reading too many books that say “A woman will signal her availability and interest by flipping her hair, licking her lips, and cocking her head coyly at you”, then get over it.

This stuff happens to Brat Pitt, not to YOU.

And if it DOES happen to you, then skip this part.

When you first start talking to a woman she’s either going to keep talking to you in an open, comfortable way or she’s not.

She’s either going to act like things are cool or she’s going to act like they’re not.

This is an amazing thought, but women get nervous too. They will often stop talking just because they can’t think of anything to say, etc.

But you need to pay attention.

Experience is the best teacher here.

My simple point is that MOST GUYS CAUSE REJECTION by what they’re doing. They aren’t paying attention, or they’re doing things that are offensive.

If you just avoid a few major mistakes, learn how to start conversations with women, and do a few simple things RIGHT, you’ll all but totally avoid “rejection” from the women you approach.

HOW TO OVERCOME FEAR OF REJECTION

The REAL obstacle here is the FEAR.

As I mentioned, FEAR of rejection, or IMAGINING rejection when you should be imagining success, leads to walking away.

You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.Ironically, I’ve found that the best way to overcome my own fear of rejection was to see that it wasn’t going to actually happen.

The more times I approached women and started conversations and the more I saw that women usually responded positively, the less I imagined things going wrong. This led to a positive feedback loop of me wanting to approach more women and have more success.

Here are a few ideas for overcoming your own FEAR of rejection:

1) Go out to a bar, and watch men approaching women.

Take a Saturday night, and just go out alone. Find a seat at the bar where things are busy, and just watch.

Make sure you visit a place that is REALLY busy, so you can see a lot of people interacting.

Now, pay attention.

You’ll begin to pick out the guys who are approaching a lot of women, asking them to dance, buying them drinks, etc. Watch what happens.

You’ll be able to see for yourself that most of the time, even if the woman isn’t interested, nothing bad happens.

You’ll also see that when a guy tries to grab a woman who’s walking by, makes a crude sexual comment, or just keeps talking when a woman isn’t interested, that the woman’s feelings might escalate and she’ll respond negatively.

You can watch what works and what doesn’t right in front of your own eyes.

This will start to reprogram your mind that women don’t usually “reject” men, even in the most intense situations where they’re being approached all night.

2) Start small.

If you have to, start by talking to women who are PAID to talk to you.

Go to a mall (one of my favorites).

Stores in malls hire attractive young women.

Walk into every store, and start conversations.

Practice making eye contact.

Come up with a few jokes that you can use in any situation (“So, do you own this store? Perfect, then you won’t care if I just take some things…”)

Ask the salesgirls to smell your new cologne (the one you sprayed on your wrist next door) and give you her opinion.

The more you do this, the more you’ll get used to starting conversations with women you don’t know, and having comfortable conversations.

3) Choose one default thing for each situation.It amazes me that guys don’t think ahead.

They don’t plan what they’re going to do.

As the old saying goes “By failing to plan, you plan to fail”.

You really need to figure out a DEFAULT thing you can do to start a conversation with any woman, anywhere, anytime.

Once you come up with your idea, mentally rehearse it until you could do it in any situation.

Then get out and do it.

HOW TO AVOID REJECTION AND INCREASE SUCCESSHuman beings tend to want to “save face” when it comes to relationships.

We don’t like the idea that another person has outright “rejected” us, and we ALSO tend to not want to “hurt other people’s feelings” by rejecting them.

This is one of the reasons why women will often lie and say “I have a boyfriend” when they don’t.

You must become aware of these “subconscious” processes and motivations, work with them, and eventually become the master of them.

Learn to recognize when a woman is “politely saying no thanks”, and move on.

If a woman isn’t interested in you, forget about it. It doesn’t matter.

Go to the next one. There are plenty.

LEARN HOW AND WHY WOMAN FEEL ATTRACTION FOR MENMost men believe that if they could only overcome their own fear of rejection, and learn how to start talking to women, all their problems would be solved.

Not so!

Just because you can start conversations with women doesn’t mean that they’ll feel ATTRACTION for you.

It took me a LONG time to really “get” this.

It took me even LONGER to realize that there is actually a way to make women feel the emotion of ATTRACTION for you… just by the way you communicate with them.

I used to believe that it was a mysterious, lucky accident when a woman felt ATTRACTION. Now I realize that it’s only “lucky” for those guys who don’t understand it (and very few do).

So that it GUYS

As always I wish you the BEST,

Vision

PS: Thank you David "D"

Hi JDOG,

I was just wondering how tall you are and also how tall Matador and Mystery are :)

I've tried to find the answer anywhere but been unsuccessful!

Thank you for your time :)

/adam

Hey guys,

Last time I posted I talked about the core of what exactly attraction is, which is great for understanding but nothing you can put to use right away.  So this time I’m going to give you guys some goodies that you can immediately put to use and have a lot of fun along the way, regardless of whether you’re a newbie or advanced.  I’ve got two openers I recently came up with that work AMAZINGLY well and I decided it’s time to share.  Keep in mind that I have a very playful style so this might not be congruent with everyone, still I suggest you try these out regardless.

The first opener is for one of the most dreaded situations a PUA faces in the field. The girls who are crazy high energy, or all dancing on each other.  We know to come in with higher energy and give value to the set but when they are clearly having so much fun already it becomes daunting to try and “bring the party”.  I’m sure for those who have been out you know exactly what I’m talking about.  This bothered me for quite a while so I developed an opener SPECIFICALLY for this type of situation, and here it is.

Walk up with a big smile and place yourself in the set where you can be most viewed by everyone, you might have to gently move a girl out of the way.  Loudly and clearly, since the more members of the group who hear the better, say “Ok, which one of you ordered the male stripper?”.  Then watch as mayhem occurs.  Usually what happens is the group will role play back and pick a girl for which you can trade lap dances with, playfully begin a strip tease show, get away with tons of kino, and easily transition from there.  The only thing to watch for is staying in the super high energy and entertainer role for to long since you can easily become a dancing monkey. 
 
The second opener is fairly new but did amazingly well when field tested by myself, and other skilled PUAs I know.  It also opens a WHOLE NEW STYLE of openers for you guys to try out, I call them “Singing Openers”.  The idea is you go in and right from the start begin singing to the girl.  The song I chose was the song from Aladin so I’m naming it the “Aladin Opener”.  I’m not even sure if these are the right words but here’s what I sung…
“I will show you the world, shining shimmering splendor.  Over, under, together, on a magic carpet ride.”  Then simply said “Sound good?”.

Only sing one or two lines since it’s more then enough and if done right the girl will giggle like mad and blush, in some cases even join in!  This actually started as a joke that I didn’t think would seriously work, but the field proved me wrong.  It also works as a great weeding tool for me since the kind of girls I like are playful and would find the humor in that kind of opener.  It also shows tremendous confidence, unattatchment to the outcome, playfulness, being in your own reality, high energy and bringing the party, as well as something unique that brings them back to fond childhood memories.  Students of NLP can appreciate that last part.

What if it goes bad and the girl gives a negative response or looks at you weird?  Simply say “Oh that’s a shame, you’ve already been jaded by (city you live in).  I’m sure there’s still a girl wanting to be a disney princess.”  However I’ve yet to need this line yet…

That it Guy's

I wish you guy's all the BEST
Vision

PS Thank you Psych

Hey JMagic,

Hooking up with college girls can be simple.

If you’re lucky to be in that four years of your life where you’re expected to do little more than go to class for 3-4 hours a day and read some books then you need to take advantage of your situation NOW.

You have instant access to THOUSANDS of hot girls on your campus — all of whom are in experimental phases of their lives and always looking to make friends.

The secret to college game is SOCIAL PROOF.

There are two reasons for this.

1. College girls are more socially conscious than random “cold approach” girls in bars and clubs.
2. It’s INSANELY easy to network socially on a college campus.

The first one is straightforward. Different girls are interested and attracted to different qualities and traits in men.

Some women like bookish types, tall guys, athletic guys, etc., etc. The principles of attraction are universal (and what we specialize in), but different types of girls value different things, so they have more of an affinity to specific things.

Well college girls are ALWAYS looking to meet new people, expand their circle of friends and are more attuned to what THEIR friends think about somebody.

For this reason, social proof plays a crucial role in college game that it doesn’t necessarily when you’re at a night club cold approaching.

A college campus is also an insulated environment, so you deal with the factor of reputation. If you creep a girl out, it’ll come back to haunt you, but at the same time, if a certain group of girls LOVES you, that social proof is likely to spread far more quickly.

The second factor is just the nature of a college campus.

A campus is basically a clustered gathering of 2,000 to 50,0000 like-minded kids from similar backgrounds and of the same age. You’re constantly thrown into interactive situations of 10-200 people at a time (class) and have access to clubs and groups to meet people with the same hobbies constantly.

This doesn’t even mention the fact that college kids probably party more than any other demographic.

What I’m saying is, meeting people is so easy it’s stupid.

And if you’re not meeting tons of people on your campus, building social proof and as a result generating massive attraction EVERYWHERE YOU GO, then you’re doing something WRONG in college.

Anyway I hope that help a little sorry it so short but I gotta run.

If you have any question please let me know.

I wish you the BEST.

Vision

PS Thank you Entropy

Hey Guys,

Here is my TOP 11 List on HOW TO BECOME A MORE ATTRACTIVE GUY.

1.  Your OK right now
2.  You are comfortable in the position of leadership.
3.  You have come to turns with your sexuality.
4.  You have visions and passion and goals outside of meeting women. 
5.  You bring a great energy to any interaction.
6.  You’re unattached to outcomes and you don’t become easily upset.
7.  Your interested in human psychology and you are interested in others.
8.  You are playful.
9.   You are comfortable in social situations
10.  You know that women deep down really want you.
11.  You have strict rules of behaviors u and u do not want from people.

I hope that helps.

If you have any question please let me know.

I wish all the BEST

Vision

Hey Ryanator,

I've noticed that there are an increasing number of guys getting into the community. Many of which are ravaged by AA. Also alot of these new guys are young high school kids. Most of which due to the constant mind-set of a lack of self-confidence and esteem need to learn this. The concept I'm going to present is a base to start of with. Almost everyone who has got into pick-up has had AA and it takes awhile to get over it.


So, I'm presenting you new guys with a guide to "Frame Control".


First of all; frame control is the idea that you control your own state of mind and that of the group you are in. This is a key benchmark in pick-up no matter what method you use. If you don't have frame control you will be thrown aside and discarded by females and males alike. What I now present to you are the ailments of a lack of frame control, and some ways to rid yourself of them.


 Social Shyness - the lack of self-confidence in social situations. Social shyness is is debilating thought process. Many men possess this due to lack of socialization with people. To those of you that are beaten by social shyness, there is hope. To become a more social person, look at what you do in your free time. Are you a keyboard-jocky? A momma's boy who stays at home? Do you do anything fun outside of your home? If you fall into any of these categories, then something has to change. Take up active hobbies or group based activities. Take up surfing, snowboarding, inter-mural sports, skiing; basically anything that gets you out of the house. Activities that put you in situations to be around other people and socialize. Humans by nature are social, just because you haven't lead a social life up to now doesn't mean you can't change. Once you develop a more fun and active lifestyle you then can proceed to work on your inner-game. 


Inner-Game - the mindset of believe you are a cool fun person and are deserving of other people's attention, mastery of the self. Inner-game is a major need to be successful in pick-up, and life for that matter. To master yourself and become confident takes a few different concepts to master. The first part of inner-game is your self-confidence. Do you believe you are worth a woman's time? If you don't then listen up. There are a few different ways to address the need to gain more self-confidence. If you have already created a more social and active lifestyle this will be alot easier. Many guys on this website will tell you that self-confidence can be gained through trial & error. Others will say that you should just walk around town for a few weeks wearing abnormal clothing - a poncho and a hockey masked with a dildo attached to it. There is also the self-confidence building programs such as; Ross Jefferies'-Unstoppable Confidence, Hypnotica's Collection of Confidence, and David DeAngelo's Deep Inner Game. All of these are legitamite ways of developing self-confidence. You must find what works for you. What ever way you choose, is doesn't realy matter. But you need the self-confince to get anywhere with women. As David DeAngelo put it; "Evict your inner wussy". 


After you have destroyed your low self-confidence its time to exam your AA. AA ( Aproach Anxiety) - the anxiety that one has before opening a set. Everyone has this, even MPUAs have it, its human nature to possess a level of anxiety before talking to someone you don't know. Once you have a sense of self-confidence this concept should be easy to deal with. 


FUCK THE VOICE IN YOUR HEAD, GO UP IN SAY SOMETHING. DON'T THINK JUST ACT. 


The more time you spend thinking about an approach, the more you are fucking up. Just do it. If you have the self-confidence, then the only way to break your AA is through continious approachs. Practice makes perfect. There is no such thing as the perfect opener. Walk up and say one of the openers you prepared for the night. Simple. There is only one more major hurdle you must overcome to have great game. 


Control the Set - being able to control the mindset and path of conversation in a set. This is where the crutch of canned-material hurts you. Canned-material is a great way to get quick attention and DHV. However, if you are in sets and once you have done your routines, and your mind runs blank, you are screwed. The only way to break this is to become a good conversationalist. If you are limited to your canned-material you are just a social-robot. This is a very bad state of mind. To better conversational skills be up to date on cultural and social knowledge. Be able to talk about stupid shit like whats going on in Hollywood. Anything, is better than silence. 


Also by showing that you are knowledgable about worldy events you are DHVing. All of the above concepts and ideas compiled together create Frame Control. "You are a master in your own world, or a slave in society's" This is my personal quote. It covers the whole scope of frame control. If you can't master yourself then you will never achieve anything with women and/or in life. These concepts above do not just pertain to pick-up. By having an active lifestyle, you are a more healthy person. You have fun things to do, and places to bring girls for adventorous dates. By having self-confidence and being a conversationalist you are improving your work life. You will be able to deal with people in the work environment on a much higher level. 


I hope all who read this for can take something away from it. I also would like to extend my services to all of you out there who want help with frame control. If you have any questions let me know I would be happy to help.

I wish you all the BEST.
Vision
PS Thank's Adam Lyon

Hey Guys,

A while back I had a chance to listen to David DeAngelo (For those you who don't know David he is one of the grandfathers of Pick Up)

David talked about the THE TOP 10 Mistakes You Can Make With A Women. It help my GAME, now I want to share it with you, so READ ON

MISTAKE #1: Being Too Much Of A "Nice Guy"

Have you ever noticed that the really attractive women never seem to be attracted "nice" guys?

Of course you have.

Just like me, I'm sure you've had attractive female friends that always seemed to date "jerks"... but for some reason they were never romantically interested in YOU.

What's going on here?

It's actually very simple...

Women don't base their choices of men on how "nice" a guy is. They choose the men they do because they feel a powerful GUT LEVEL ATTRACTION for them.

And guess what?

Being nice doesn't make a woman FEEL that powerful ATTRACTION. And being NICE doesn't make a woman CHOOSE you.

I realize that this doesn't make a lot of logical sense, and it's hard to ACCEPT... but GET OVER IT.

Until you accept this FACT and begin to act on it, you'll NEVER have the success with women that you want.

David D. strikes a very good point here, and that is: Without tension, there can be no attraction. You guys ever hear that old saying "Sexual Tension?" Well, there's a reason it's "Sexual." Nice guys try to eliminate ALL conflict, ALL tension from their interactions with women because they mistakingly believe that by doing so, the woman will like them.

Well, it's quite the opposite.

If you look at the "ass holes" or the guys that are good with chicks, you'll see that for the most part they are good at creating that tension that's just under the surface of the interaction. Be it by a devilish smile, or a suggestive comment that get's the wheels in the girl's brain churning, there's something there that is NOT complacent or safe.

When you can create that tension, you will be taken out of the "nice guy" category.

MISTAKE #2: Trying To "Convince Her To Like You"

What do most guys do when they meet a woman that they REALLY like... but she's just notinterested?

Right! They try to "convince" the woman to feel differently.

Well, I have news for you... YOU WILL NEVER CHANGE HOW A WOMAN "FEELS" WHEN IT COMES TO ATTRACTION!

Never, ever, EVER.

You cannot CONVINCE a woman to feel differently about you with "logic and reasoning".

Think about it.

If a woman doesn't "feel it" for you, how in the world do you expect to change that FEELING by being "reasonable" with her?

But we all do it.

When a woman just isn't interested, we beg, plead, chase, and do our best to change her mind.

Bad idea. One that will never work.

I think this is a mistake every guy has made during his lifetime. We get so into a girl, and when we find out she doesn't feel the same way, we try to convince her of all the reasons WHY she should reciprocate our feelings.

Part of the reason this happens is becuase most guys don't do the groundwork necessary upon the first meeting to evoke those feelings in the woman. That "Sexual Tension" we talked about earlier is not present. The guy has failed to engage the woman on any level other than "trust and comfort." He has, in essence, failed to seduce her.

I like to think there are ways to turn this situation around, but one thing is for certain, arguing with the girl and trying to explain to her using logic why she should like you will never, ever work.

MISTAKE #3: Looking To Her For Approval Or Permission

In our desire to please women (which we mistakenly think will make them like us), us guys are always doing things to get a woman's "approval" or "permission".

Another HORRIBLE idea.

Women are NEVER attracted to the types of men who kiss up to them... EVER. Don't get me wrong here.

You don't have to treat women BADLY for them to like you.

But if you think that treating a woman well means "always getting her approval and permission for things", think again.

You will never succeed by looking for approval. Women actually get ANNOYED at men who seek their approval.

Doubt me? Just ask any attractive woman if Wussy guys who chase her around and want her approval annoy her...

Let's face it. People are lazy. They don't want to make decisions for themselves. They don't want to be in charge. They want leaders, a cause, a belief to invest themselves in. When it comes to women, they want a STRONG MAN to be with. Now, when I say strong, I don't mean physically strong. I mean a man with a strong frame, strong beliefs, strong ideas. A man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell others what to do.

This is important, because most guys have been trained to put women on pedistals, to worship them like some type of special flower. But women are people. When you exhault them, you put them in a position they don't want to be in. You put them in CONTROL. The woman suddenly becomes the one who has to make the decisions, who has to carry on the relationship, and frankly, she has too many other options available to her to do that.

Part of attracting women comes down to getting the woman you want to qualify to you, to accept the chellenges you present to her. In essence, to get her to adopt your frame, and do what YOU want to do.

MISTAKE #4: Trying To "Buy" Her Affection With Food And Gifts

How many times have you taken a woman out to a nice dinner, bought her gifts and flowers, and had her REJECT you for someone who didn't treat her even HALF as well as you did?

If you're like me, then you've had it happen a LOT. Well guess what?

It's only NATURAL when this happens...

That's right, I said NATURAL.

When you do these things, you send a clear message:

I don't think you'll like me for who I am, so I'm going to try to buy your attention and affection".

Your good intentions usually come across to women as over-compensation for insecurity, and weak attempts at manipulation. That's right, I said that women see this as MANIPULATION.

That's right, and it's the typically accepted "Dating Frame" that most guys buy into hook, line, and sinker. The fact of the matter is, buying expensive dinner and gifts is a REWARD, not a temptation. You can do that with girls you enjoy being with, that you are ALREADY sleeping with, because they've earned the priviledge of your affection -- they know it, and you know it.

Until that time, it comes off as begging. Supplication. It's you seeking a type of approval from a woman by "romancing" her. In the meantime, you're eliminating that necessary tension that needs to exist for attraction. It's okay to "go out" with a girl, but you don't need to break the bank or shower her with gifts for her to like you. Sharing a cup of coffee or a drink is fine.

MISTAKE #5: Sharing "How You Feel" Too Early In The Relationship With Her Another huge and unfortunate mistake that most men make with women is sharing how they "feel" too early on.

Attractive women are rare.

And they get a LOT of attention from men.

Most men don't realize this, but attractive women are being approached in one way or another ALL THE TIME.

An attractive woman is often approached several times a DAY by men who are interested. This translate into dozens of times per week, and often HUNDREDS of times per month.

And guess what?

Attractive women have usually dated a LOT of men. That's right. They have EXPERIENCE.

They know what to expect.

And one thing that turns an attractive women off and sends her running away faster than just about anything is a guy who starts saying "You know, I really, REALLY like you" after one or two dates.

This signals to the woman that you're just like all the other guys who fall for her too fast... and can't control themselves.

Don't do it. Lean back. Relax.

There's a much better way...

Sharing your feelings with a woman too early on is much like showing your opponant you have a straight flush in a high stakes poker game. When you tell a woman you have strong feelings for her early on, you eliminate the sexual tension that attraction relies on. You take away the uncertainty of "Does he like me or not?" you put her fears and anticipations to rest.

In short: You kill the romance.

Not only that, but you exhault her and put yourself in the position of a begger. NOT the place you want to be in. Best to hide your intentions, and get HER to express her feelings for YOU first. Only then is it appropriate to tell her, because then she feels like she's EARNED those feelings.

MISTAKE #6: Not "Getting" How Attraction Works For Women Women are VERY different from men when it comes to ATTRACTION.

You need to accept this fact, and deal with it.

When a man sees a beautiful, young, sexy woman, he INSTANTLY feels a sexual attraction.

But does the same apply for women?

Do women feel sexual attraction to men based mostly on looks? Or is something else going on?

Well, after studying this topic for over five full years now, I can tell you that women usually have their "attraction mechanisms" triggered by things OTHER than looks.

Have you ever noticed that you see a lot more average and unattractive men with beautiful women than the other way around?

Women are more attracted to certain qualities in men... and they're attracted to the way a man makes them FEEL than they are to looks alone.

If you know how to use your body language and communication correctly, you can make women feel the same kind of powerful sexual attraction to you that YOU feel when you see a hot, sexy young woman.

But it's not an accident. You have to LEARN how to do this.

And ANY guy can learn how...

This is very true. I've talked a bit about how guys have these mental barriers they project into the real world. Things like "She won't like me because I'm too bald, fat, ugly, etc." That's because in our reality as men, we do not find women who are ugly to be attractive. But when it comes to women, who are more emotional creatures and rely more on their feelings than logical thought when it comes to attraction, the biggest thing that gets them going is how a man can COMMUNICATE with them.

Communicate in ways such as what we say, body language, and our actions as men. Taking strong frames of "I am the prize. I am a great guy and women will be lucky to be with me" and imposing that on others will get you the same effect as a gorgeous body and Brad Pitt-like face, if pulled off right.

Guys who are good looking have a distinct, inherent advantage over the rest of us. But if they are boring guys who fail to keep the woman engaged, she is going to move on and look for someone else. You may not be able to change your looks, but you CAN change the way you communicate with women. In that respect, there is hope for all of us, and in my opinion, this is the area where Double Your Dating shines the most.

MISTAKE #7: Thinking That It Takes Money And Looks

One of the most common mistakes that guys make is giving up before they've even gotten started... because they think that attractive women are only interested in men who have looks and money... or guys who are a certain height... or guys who are a certain age.

And sure, there are some women who are only interested in these things.

But MOST women are far more interested in a man's personality than his wallet or his looks.

There are personality traits that attract women like a magnet...

And if you learn what they are and how to use them, YOU can be one of these guys.

YOU DO NOT have to "settle" for a woman just because you aren't rich, tall, or handsome.

Let me say this again: If you know how to use your body language and communication correctly, you can make women feel the same kind of powerful sexual attraction to you that YOU feel when you see a hot, sexy young woman. This is true. The Looks and Money barrier is just a social construct of your own making. I know LOTS of guys who AREN'T good looking and AREN'T rich who get an AMAZING ammount of pussy, all because they are cool, interesting guys.

For men, it's hard to imagine this as being true, because if we see a woman we don't find attractive, we don't want to sleep with her. She could be the coolest chick in the world, but if we can't get a boner for her, we wouldn't want to have sex with her. However, the same is not true for women. Women don't get boners. They get aroused in different ways, and this is what most guys fail to understand.

When a woman says "Oh, I'm not attracted to short guys," that's not necessarilly the truth. It just means that short guys don't make her feel the same way that tall guys do. But if a short guy were to come along and make her feel the way she wants to, you can bet the barn she's going to sleep with him, despite his height.

It's all about setting the right frame and having the right beliefs.

MISTAKE #8: Giving Away All Of Your Power To Women

Earlier I mentioned that it's a mistake to look to a woman for approval or permission.

Well, another similar tactic that a lot of guys use is GIVING AWAY THEIR POWER to women.

Said differently, guys try to get women to like them by doing whatever the woman wants.

Another bad idea...

Women are NEVER attracted to men that they can walk all over... Women aren't attracted to Wussies!

Part of giving away your power is adopting the woman's frame. Entering HER reality. When you let the woman you are with control the underlying meaning of the interaction you are having with her, you put yourself in a position where SHE determines what is true and what isn't. When you ask her questions, you enter her reality deeper and deeper. You give up control.

When you do this, you take away sexual tension, and shuck all responsibility for the relationship. And like I said before, women do not want that burden. It's always best to chellenge the woman, get her to qualify to you, and pull back, to the point where SHE is the aggressor, where SHE is persuing YOU.

MISTAKE #9: Not Knowing EXACTLY What To Do In Each Type Of Situation With Women Now I'm going to blow your mind...

A woman ALWAYS knows what you're thinking.

Women are approximately TEN TIMES better than men at reading body language. That's ten TIMES.

I know, it might be hard to believe. But for example, if you're out on a date with a woman, and you want to kiss her, she knows it.

And if you don't know exactly what to do and exactly HOW to kiss her, and you just sit there looking at her and getting nervous, she won't help!

And this goes for ALL aspects of women and dating...

Approaching a woman, getting her number, asking her out, kissing her, getting physical... everything.

If you don't know what to do in each situation, you will probably screw it up...and LOSE EVERYTHING.

And you KNOW it.

It is VITALLY important that you know EXACTLY how to go from one step to the next with a woman... from the first meeting, all the way to the bedroom. In short: It's good to have a structure.

It's also good to have experience. You need to know your stuff -- your openers, your routines, your phase shifts, your kino games, your cold reads, etc. And more importantly, it's important to know how to put it all together, and how to act.

Twenty-six trained himself to do this by taking EVERY interaction he had with women, be they ugly or hot, as far as he could so he could understand this structure and practice the late game. Women do notice details, and they are empathetic to the point where they can sense what you want to do (especially since most men are not in control of their body language) . Part of being a confident, cool guy is being experienced. Being comfortable making your move, knowing what to do, not caring what others think or if the girl rejects him.

And the best way to get comfortable doing this is with PRACTICE.

MISTAKE #10: Not Getting HELP

This is the biggest mistake of all.

This is the mistake that keeps most men from EVER having the kind of success with women that they truly want.

I know, guys don't like to make themselves look weak or helpless. We don't like to ask for help.

Hey, I've been there myself.

Check out J DOGs Bootcamp's and Material's he offers some great STUFF, to help you advance your GAME to the next level.

As always I wish you the BEST

Vision

Hey Guys,

I wanted to take the time to discuss with the Top 10 Tips On Being A Natural.

1. Connect. Genuine connection with another person should serve as the basis of your game. It doesn't matter how good your techniques are if you can't achieve a genuine connection.

2. Positive. Always work to increase the positivity of interactions, and strive to improve the emotions of the people around you. Trying to hurt people only destroys your own value.

3. Now. The immediate moment, the "now" is always more important than any previous moment. Never allow yourself to get stuck in previous moments during the pickup, regardless of what happened.

4. Idea. It is not sufficient to be a man. You must become an "idea". Women are attracted to ideas, not men. Once you determine what YOU stand for, your "idea", make EVERY SINGLE element of your game congruent to that. Everything you do, say, how you dress, your mannerisms, your techniques should serve to reinforce that "idea". Any deviation from your "idea" is a leak in your game that needs to be fixed. This accounts for why some techniques work for some people and not others.

5. Reveal. When using techniques and routines, you must communicate yourself through the techniques, not hide behind them. Many men got into the game because they had a fear of letting women see the real them. Routines and techniques have become a very convenient veil that they could hide behind. Don't let this happen.

6. Value. Demonstrations of value should flow naturally from the reality of your life. Value is built, not fabricated.

7. Vibe. Value is largely perceived as a vibe which is sensed on a subconscious level. How long does it take you to figure out if you like a person or not? 1 minute? 30 seconds? Some of my most memorable relationships came from 1-3 minute number closes.

8. Focus. The nature of your thoughts is the first determinant of your outcome. Your mental "focus" always takes precedence over structure. Never sacrifice your focus in order to follow a generic linear path.

9. Spontaneous. Life is unpredictable. Contingencies always come up. Since women will pay attention to your reactions in all kinds of different situations, your game is only as good as your spontaneous conversation and behaviors.

10. Time. Time is irrelevant to pickup. If you spent 30 minutes with a woman, but the last 5 were boring, you would have been better off venuechanging / getting a number at the 25 minute mark. If you have a problem with flaking, you don't need to spend more time, you need to improve your vibe. 

Summary: Use your time wisely. Be positive, spontaneous, focussed, in the "now"; connect, vibe, reveal your real value, and become an idea in her mind.

Thats it Guys. Now go out and practice

I wish you all the BEST,

Vision

PS Thank you David from FAST SEDUCTION's

ignore my last post. i hate my drunk roommate

I thought this was about the movie Avatar. Now I'm depressed=(. Not really. I just ripped off Hugh Hefner's name, because I figure no one can get better than him, and he is awesome.=)

Its great to get great advice, but sometimes, its difficult to take the big leap especially when both sexes respectively wait for the other to make the first move.

What are the recommended Chicago Dating Services for divorced singles out there? I have some experience with www.asoulmate.com. Are there any others?

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thanks, i am going to try that tommorow

you gotta stand out from the regular pick ups,avoid the "class material" talks..bring some other crazy creative thoughts that come to your mind..
one..by DDeangelo I think..
at the cafe or restaurant, get a pen and paper and line up a tic tack toe (XO game) and place an X, then get a waiter to give her the paper and pen without letting him tell her who you are...continue the game,then write something funny in the end depending on result,usually teasing her "I hope your conversation skills are better than your game ones!"..then you go over with a confident smile and talk..

this game can also work in class with help of others.. 

always good to read these tips,even to reaffirm the ones I already know about.
No.13 is the hardest for me by far..the balance..gotta keep the balance.. 

so i've been studying pick up for a year now and my club and party game is good but, i'm in college and spend most of my time in the class and hanging out with friends in a cafe on campus. when we do go to parties i try to make the most of them but, i need some help, how do approach girls in class and at the cafe? My staple openers aren't working.

3.    Exercise for about 30 minutes when you wake up. Make sure that you sweat! Exercise will bring a healthy glow to your face and help your skin look its best by increasing your blood circulation.

4.    See a professional trainer and begin a work out program at your gym several times a week. Monitor your progress with regular weighing and measurements

5.    Take a shower and wash yourself well. Use antibacterial shower gels and wear deodorant. Condition your hair and apply a body spray or cologne.

6.    Visit a dentist for a good cleaning, teeth whitening and discuss the removable braces or veneers. Remember to go back every 6 months.

7.    Take care of your skin. Develop a daily skin care plan for your face. Use the product formulas appropriate for your skin type. Visit a mall make up counter to get the details on the men's lines. For severe acne you should visit a dermatologist.

8.    Work on your tan. A tan gives the appearance of being thinner and healthier. Use self-tanning products for a sun free tan. Exfoliate well before applying a self tanner. Apply as directed. While you are self-tanning, avoid exercising and exfoliating your skin, so use a cleanser without AHAs that will not get rid of your sunless tan. Try different formulas and strengths to find one that works for you without turning your skin orange. Spray on tanning is also available at salons.

9.    Style your hair in a current style that suits your look. Pay for a professional hair stylist and not a barber. Have high or low lights added as necessary. Use styling products and maintain your hair with regular salon appointments.

10.    Consider waxing to remove unwanted hair. If you have long hair on your back you might consider waxing or laser removal for a long term removal. If you have very hairy legs and armpits, thin them with regular trimmings. Complete shaves will require constant maintenance to avoid stubble and unpleasant regrowth. Trim your armpits and bikini zones so you have a lot less hair! "Manscaping" has become a normal and expected part of the male grooming ritual.

11.    Dress stylishly and well in good fitting and quality clothing. Even if you are not naturally good looking dressing well can do wonder for your attractiveness. Add a few stylish pieces into your wardrobe as often as you can. Stop wearing poorly fitted clothes and scuffed or athletic shoes. Abercrombie & Fitch & Polo Ralph Lauren are all good choices but can be expensive. Chose clothing that will make you look good with the fit and style. Create your own style by combining pieces.

12.    Work on your attitude! Hot guys aren't timid and shy. Don't be obnoxious but don't be afraid to have a conversation with people, including strangers. The hottest guys are also pleasant, polite and friendly. Don't try to lift yourself up by putting people down. Be generous and honest with your compliments to people. You can always find something nice to say. Being nice makes it easier for people to be around you and befriend you. Don't pretend to be smarter or cooler than you are. Try to be a gentlemen. Hot only gets you so far if you're a jerk.

13.    Appearing too eager can knock your hotness down a few notches. Don't play too hard to get but don't chase women either. Let them drop hints that they are available before you suggest getting together then don't rush to call immediately. Appear otherwise engaged with other interest and not girl crazy. Most importantly, save something about yourself for that first, second or third date. Women like a little mystery, and there is nothing worse than that awkward silence when you realize you've run out of things to say.

Well that it guy's I hope that helps.

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As always I wish you all the BEST,

Vision

Hi Guys

New York is insane. Nowhere else in the world will you find such a volume or diversity of girls. I've had a lot of adventures there and it's actually where I met my current girlfriend.The great thing about Day Game is that there's much less competition on a street or in a café than in a bar or nightclub. 
It also suits guys who don't like loud or boozy environments, or guys who are just too busy to go out a lot but see a ton of beautiful women during the daytime.
I'm dating a girl right now who reminds me why I worked so hard on my Day Game the last few years. I'm reminded why I went out, day after day, perfecting my daytime dating skills until I felt totally confident and comfortable going up to a stranger, charming her and taking her home with me.
She is the kind of girl who gets hit on most days of her life, has a constant stream of guys chasing her and wanting to do her favors, and recently got approached by a couple of TV producers to make a show about her.
Today I want to tell you guys how to meet and attract a girl in the daytime. But let's go over some of the basics right now.

Approaching
For most daytime situations, you want to use a direct approach. Try something like:

"Excuse me, I just saw you walking past and I had to tell you that you look absolutely stunning. What's your name?"

Vision

Heys guys is it a good idea to just ask the girl if she likes sex if she has an orgasem  if she has ever had sex with another woamn just to get to know her more and being sinceire an confidente with her.
Being a man is that.

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