The Basics to Logistics, Escalation and Comfort Builders
Hey Guys,
I hope you had a great weekend I know that I did.
I was fortunate to attend a RSD Seminar Workshop last week (Real Social Dynamics w/ Tyler Durden) for those of you who do not know Tyler he was one of the characters in Neil Strauss book the "GAME" and is now one of the West Coast leading PUA's
He put together and excellent seminar on the BASICS of Logistics, Escalation and Comfort Building that will help you take your GAME to the NEXT LEVEL.
So today, I prepared a short essay on two topics
which are essential to mastery in the field of "pickup,"
logistics and escalation.
First, I'll break down some of the fine points of dealing with
the logistics of various scenarios you might encounter in the
field.
Then, I'll breaks down some strategies and tactics to use when
you're escalating things physically.
Okay, let me break this stuff down.
LOGISTICS:
Working out logistics is important.
1) Chicks CONSTANTLY look at eachother while they're being
pushed into a state of attraction. Watch while you interact,
as they CONSTANTLY keep looking at one another to see what
state they're in.
If they give the "girl code" look that one is not in state,
they ALL leave. Chicks NEED to feel that ALL their friends
are feeling it TOO, so they don't get looked down on by their
friends.
This is why social proof is SO important in public gatherings.
If ONE chick is not at the SAME "buying temperature," then she
SEES that her friend will have sex with you if she leaves her
alone, and she drags her away.
You must NOT put a girl TOO FAR into buying temperature in
front of her friends, unless you keep them together.
BTW: One reason chicks like socially proofed guys is that
they SEE that many other chicks have gone into buying
temperature, so its "OK" to allow themselves to do so.
Also, if you've I get my wingman in where his chick isn't
liking him, I say "your friend is ignoring my friend.. I
don't want him to be lonely..
I'm gonna go", and then YOUR chick will start saying to her
locked up friend "no, he's cool.. I like him he's cool..
blah blah", and all of a sudden the previously locked up
friend now OPENS UP to your wingman, and now BOTH chicks
will go home with you.
2) Pairs of girls are EASY to close when you have a competent
wing. Why? Because they BOTH become attracted, and since
NEITHER will object, it just happens.
3) The smart guy does as LITTLE as possible to hit the next
level of attraction. This way he doesn't exhaust his material,
and he doesn't risk the girl FRYING OUT HER CIRCUITS (rock
concert style), or possibly her detecting what you're doing
and cutting it off.
Also, its better, because if she is ONLY at "venue change"
attraction level, then her friends will SENSE this and be
less likely to object to you taking her away from them.
AFTER you have her away from her friends, you can now pump
her up all the way to full buying temperature, and now you've
STRATEGICALLY played your game, so that you don't get
interference.
4) WHEN to venue change? Experiment with this - but IMO a
great exercise to play with (I like it, anyway) is to
practise ALWAYS going for venue change as soon as you get the
feeling she'd say yes.
That means just sticking out your arm for her to hook arms
with you, and saying "I am DYING for -whateverthing-... let's
go" (do it like she's your little sister, who you have to
cart around).
Test this for 2 weeks, and you'll be able to pull 75% of
every girl you open for an instant date at least. But WHEN do
we go for it IDEALLY?
Well the GOAL is to have a proper comfort building LOCATION.
That means that if its a superloud club, or a fast paced area,
or a dark creepy area, go for the venue change ASAP, to
somewhere more ideal.
However, if its a good area to build comfort (not too loud or
weird, and the friends are cool with the two of you getting
to know each other so they don't interrupt), then just keep
it going in that area for as long as you need.
Barring both of those (time issues), move it rapidly to
QUALIFY phase, so that you can get a # or a meet plan, and
then she'll be happy to meet up with you later (aka: TIME
BRIDGE), where you can CONTINUE the pickup.
For example, with a shooter girl, you rarely have the time to
run a full pickup. The ONLY goal is to get to qualify phase
as quickly as possible, and then bridge to continue the
pickup later while she's not working.
5) When to kiss/escalate? For me, kissing is not an ATTRACT
tactic, to get a girl thinking "god I want sex so bad, let's
go!".. It's a COMFORT BUILDING tactic, and a QUALIFYING
tactic.
You're showing her 1- you have PHYSICAL COMPATIBILITY (so she
isn't worried "oh god, is the first kiss going to be good or
not?"), and 2- she is physically good for you, so she earned
it that way (you say "wow.. woooo... OOOOOOK that's enough")...
IOW, you don't TONGUE HER DOWN and FINGER HER in the club.
You just kiss or better yet (my preference), to kiss a BIT,
but then hold back. Like you're alpha enough to kiss - you're
not scared whatsoever. You're just not a TACKY CLUB MAKEOUT
GUY of the night - you're for real.
So phase shifting and kissing is fine under the right context.
It's not hard to get hot and heavy with a girl in a public
venue, but for me, I find that if I haven't qualified her and
put in my time with her first, I become the "club guy" who
she gets buyer's remorse for.
(If you have female friends, you'll hear them coming home
from clubs with all that "I can't believe I did that" talk).
ESCALATION:
At each WAYPOINT, we must ESCALATE.
Buying temperature increases, they want COMFORT. They have COMFORT,
they want SEXUAL ESCALATION.
When they hit buying temperature, they say "what's your name,"
etc., because they want to KNOW the guy who is getting them
all into state.
COMFORT BUILDERS:
-It takes roughly 4-7 hours to lay a chick from start to
finish. Comfort building means BABYSITTING for those hours,
while she slowly heats up to be ready for sex - it takes that
many hours for her to be ready, unless she's a party chick.
-talking about stuff that DOES NOT pump them through too many
sharp emotions rapidly (ie: drop the crazy exciting stuff),
but still keeps them into the conversation.
-talk should convey who you are, so she can fill in the empty
canvas and see the PICTURE of 'who is this guy I'm so
attracted to' Attraction is THERE - she's at that buying
temperature. Comfort building means building COMFORT into the
state she's in, so she doesn't put a stop to it.
-include talk about how it's NATURAL to feel this way for the
right person.. Examples include the "I wasn't born with a book
on what to do.. I just do what feels comfortable" (chicks
KNOW the feeling that certain guys make them comfortable, and
ASSUME that they feel this way for YOU)
-SIMULATING THAT *YOU* ARE HITTING BUYING TEMPERATURE:
"What's your sign? OH MY GOD I LOVE LIBRAS.. Oh god, I can't
talk to you.. you're trouble" (turn away, just like girls
whose circuits fry out.. you're TRICKING them to think you're
doing what THEY do, since chicks do this stuff all the time
because they hit buying temperature for retarded arbitrary
reasons like astrological signs and colognes and so forth)
-FAKING LOCKUP AS PUNISHMENT in 'Punishment/Reward': If you're
in comfort building, FAKE the symptoms of lockup. She'll
understand what it means when she's like "Vision, are you OK?"
and I say "I dunno" just like a chick would when she's locked
up. She'll grab you and start talking to try to unlock you.
For example: Her: "I like oranges"
Me: "What? Apples. Apples are gross.." (pretends to lock
himself up)
Her: "no no no, I said oranges! Oranges!"
ME: "oh wow.. I love oranges.." (pretends to unlock)
Congrats, now she's chasing you.
-FEAR OF LOSS TO MAINTAIN STATE WITHOUT INTENSE EMOTIONAL UPS
AND DOWNS: Some guys complain that in comfort building phase
the girls come out of state. By using punishment reward bit,
she'll be chasing you. But ALSO, building in FEAR OF LOSS is
effective.
Think back to when a girl who you didn't like liked you.
Maybe back in high school or something. But then you realized
that she never liked you. You LOSE the validation you got.
You start to obsess. You start to like her.
Likewise, you have a stale relationship. But she starts to
get into another guy. OH NO, you're obsessing over her again.
Or you make HER jealous, and now she's back into you (even
when it was stale). This is the power of FEAR OF LOSS. Fear
of loss REMINDS us of how attracted we are.
In comfort building, incorporate fear of loss and
punishment/reward, so that you don't suffer the phenomena of
losing the chick at comfort building phase because the
interaction has lost its charge.
KEYS:
If you FAIL to ESCALATE, the pickup is often OVER.
Example:
1) If you don't stop busting on her, she loses interest after
a while, because you're being too emotionally intense for her.
She needs COMFORT built into the high buying temperature
you're generating. This is why you get guys who are good at
opening at attracting, but have difficulty closing unless it's
a party-chick.
This is the phenomena of "OVERGAMING"
***Think of pickup as FOREPLAY. You're ramping her up for
something, the same way you would when you're giving her oral
or fingering her. You're getting her PRIMED. If you stimulate
a chick for too long before you bang her, she gets BURNT OUT.
When a guy puts a chick into a high buying temperature, and
just keeps trying too hard to increase it beyond what it can
even naturally go to, he has overgamed. Instead, build
COMFORT into the state she's in.
2) If you don't phase shift out of comfort, she gets bored or
something (maybe you're beta or not interested)
3) Final escalation - ARGHHHH!! (I got burnt on this FIVE
times, until I RECOGNIZED it) If you keep them SEXUAL but
don't escalate to HAVE SEX WITH them, it's too intense for
too long, and they say "I'm tired" or "I feel sick".
This is guaranteed. What happens is they get actually QUEASY
from you keeping them sexual without actually having sex with
them for TOO LONG. If anyone else has had this happen, report
back.
Have you guys seen this before? It's JUST LIKE the "what's
your name" indicator of interest. It's something that
CONSISTENTLY HAPPENS under specific circumstances.
Anyway, those are some basic pointers on logistics and
escalation. Enjoy.
As always GUY's if you have any question or comments please let me know.
I wish you all the BEST,
Vision