Opening in your sleep:
I titled this 'opening in your sleep' because that is what you should be able to do. I hate using the word 'should', but I've realized that this is a fundamental part of pickup. I used to use canned openers regularly, but without having memorized them verbatim. I always figured it would sound more natural if I just used the general point of the opener, but phrased it in the moment. I was wrong. When learning pickup, opening is kind of hard. It should not be - there I go again, let me rephrase: it doesn't have to be. If you take any field tested, pua approved opener from the community and memorize it line-for-line, and practice it a few dozen times in front of a mirror, or better yet in front of your wing, you can get it down pat. You will find that you can work out the timing, the pauses, and how each word will sound the best - so that it comes out of you like a superstar PUA.
The issue is what Asmokindeal and I call "temporary autism" - when you put yourself in a stressful situation, out of your comfort zone, such as when cold approaching women - your mind will freeze up, and go into a spiral of anxiety, things such as 'am I coming off well,' 'is my voice sounding right,' and 'do I look nervous,' among 1000 other questions begin to pummel your mind. Because of this, only a few tiny brain cells are actually still working on your delivery of the opener. There is a simple solution, and it can make the difference between staying stuck in the period where just opening is difficult, and you feel like a victor if you just hook, and moving on to more advanced stuff. You are a total victor if you hook - most guys can't even do that. But, if you want to get into some serious social interactions, handling that first critical phase is of utmost importance.
Like I said, I used to believe that if I tried to open spontaneously, even using canned ideas, I would learn how to be more reactive in conversations. What I figured out, the hard way, was that did not lead to many transitions. Opening was such a task that I would be wiped out by the time I finished the opener, if I even did, and would eject because of this.
Now I basically have one opener that I use on all-female sets. I've got it down pat. I can do it in my sleep. What happens now, is that when I go to open the set, although my mind is awash with doubt and anxiety (not action stopping phobia, just the normal anxiety of opening a set that we all deal with in the beginning), the opener still comes out beautifully. I actually find myself saying the words without thinking, and the little part of my brain that is available in the moment can focus on things like body language, projection, eye contact, and body rocking.
This one shift in technique has literally shot my game up one level. I now do not need to worry about opening well. I am more confident, and really do know that when I open a set it is going to hook. My focus has gone from 'can I get them to stop and listen' to 'I've decided to hook this set, now what am I going to do with them?
Right now, I'm back in the newbie phase. I was out of the game for two years and literally had to start over. But, things are coming back quickly, and I know that I can do it. Currently, I am working on transitioning, and good DHV material, and getting to qualifying. But I have opening down. How many aPUA's do you know that can truly walk up to any set and know that they can open them (unless there is some kind of strange obstacle)? It honestly took me a few days to get here, after a couple of months of struggling with opening - just because I decided to memorize that opener like an actor would.
I strongly believe that this is the path to success. As the interaction continues, my comfort builds along with the people in the set. This means that my brain is less blocked up by that initial anxiety, and I can begin to have a more spontaneous interaction - but only because I've programmed it to do that first bit on auto-pilot. If you are a bit of a natural talker, you may not need to do this - but the rest of us, for whom opening a set is not quite natural yet, this can be like a cheat code for a video game - begin work in A2 (for you MM guys), instead of A1. I am planning to do the same thing with my DHV material, push/pull (teasing, whatever you want to call it), and qualifying - basically I am going to pre-program the entire attraction phase into my head so that I can spit it out in any circumstance without having to use the critical thinking part of my mind! Success, here I come.
Maybe once I have worked 2000 sets, and feel like a superstar in any social situation, I will go back to being totally spontaneous from the beginning. But I have had such a jump in success with this method, that I have committed myself to using it until I have worn it out.
Good luck.
Peace, love, and happiness to all you who have decided to improve yourselves by taking on this journey.
SS
Sweet...I kinda use canned openers as threads. My goals say something stupid catchy crazy weird...Whatever I feel in the moment then pop the opener.
I love it!
Sunslayer, I have a wing who is a lot like you, let's call him Fox for the moment. He is one cunning guy, has a lot of intuition into how social situations fit together, and he also has an extremely structured approach to everything he does. I'm not saying that's good or bad, it's just him...
I am the guy who would walk up to the bouncer and tell him his fly is open, I'd ask the bitchy 10 if she's ever considered a different shade of black for her lipstick (all colours are merely shades of black, more on that some other time). It gets really frustrating for both Fox and myself hanging out if we get overly concerned with gaming, because our styles are totally conflicting! Okay enough rambling...
Memorizing your material 100% has it's pro's and cons. I prefer to do everything ad-lib, and it works for me. If I memorise I come over sticky, uncertain, and incencere. If Fox goes natural he loses his frame, confidence, and forgets to think about his body language. Differences that on the surface make us a terrible duo, but actualy make life sooo sweet once you know how to run it (ps a good wingman is priceless)
On the plus side-
- You can focus on delivery. Body language, your feet, your arms, smiling, all of that
- YOU know where you want this interaction to go and how to get there
- This makes you comfortable, which is contagious.
- You can move within those first 3 seconds to open a set (This I do believe still counts, it's essential)
These are the pitfalls I have seen-
- You may sound scripted (Beginners error, will go away with time)
- The topic may be totally irrelevant (I prefer a wide variety in the ladies I talk to)
- The set may ask / change the topic before you are "done"
- You can only use 1 opener so many times in 1 room before everybody knows it...
- You become inflexible
This simply means that I agree with both schools of thought, but I'd advise everybody to try out both (starting with canned of course) to check out which works best. Opening can work scripted because you are an unknown quantity to the set, you bring in your own ideas and therefore the 'script' is just your point of view on the opener.
I do however STRONGLY believe that scripting your whole interaction (A2 - C2) is not the way to go. You should know a couple of routines (all of them if you wish) but you absolutely have to work in some true interaction in between or you will come across as a salesman. Fox could open an abrams tank with a roll of polony the guy is that good, but doing attraction and comfort with a pre-set plan means that you ARENT building attraction or comfort WITH her. You're not talking about what she finds attractive or comforting, you're talking AT her... Have stories, but dont decide beforehand A is followed by X then neg then go to story F etc...
Sorry if I came over quite passionately, I'm not dissing your great work on the opening front! Love it... Just keep your eyes open into A2-C1, besides PUA is about representing the real you in the best possible way, and not amassing the best possible routines for the quickest lay...
Like the work, like your style too, keep it up!
My problem was and still kinda is the approach but i've read alot of body language and you kinda just go in crash everything then you can repair it from their reactions.
Hi Jynx, thank you for the reply. The link you provided did shine some light on the exact question and or solutions I was in need of. It helped give me yet another perspective on the evolution of the concepts. The more I think about it......it feels more like a way of life and less like a game. As Matador says, " Make it a way of being the you want to communicate more deeply with your fellow human beings...It is the greatest super power in the world!"
Just some of my passionate emotional leverage.
Trevelyan