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rookie - member
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i am having a hard time opening sets. even after opening them i get stuck...I don't know how to continue the convo and keep it going.

example last night i opened up a set asking "is dancing cheating" they were like what type i was like "grinding"...then she replied and i was like "oh okay". i didn't know where to take it after so i just left.

rookie - member
10 posts

try looking up some transitions. those are the phrases or whatever that take you from your opener to a normal conversation. if i came up to you and asked if you have seen my lost dog, i cant immediatly start telling you about my weekend. doesnt work. you need to transition. you can use one where you "spontaneously" notice something about her or her group or just cut to another conversation. pay attention how you talk to friends and transition from subjects. practice make perfect. for your situation i might have tried something like a neg like saying you no.. ur nose wiggles a bit when u talk. its kinda cute but then again your not my type :) now that guy over there.. (point to the ugliest mother fucker at the place) .. now thats a man for you missy. i should go introduce you to.. and u can take it where ever u want. i used a neg u can make a statement or give her a cold read. possibilities are endless

novice - member
47 posts

COLD READ! lol I've used those for witty banter and stuff along that line but I've never thought of using them to transition. That's fucking GENIUS!

rookie - member
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although transition is the hard part, i am still having trouble with the openers. i know jdog wrote an ariticle about opners and how u need to do interesiting things to talk about, but for begginers any tips on openers without sounding cheesy?

novice - member
47 posts

Last night I went up to a girl who was cleaning a cash register at Fresh and Easy. She was the only one working and all of their registers are self check out. I walked up to her and said "I want to use this one." She laughed and started talking about how some crazy lady actually did that to her. There's a million different ways to open, the important thing is to just go out and talk to women.

rookie - member
10 posts

lol i just got back from my trip to the beach and my friends came up with this fun little game that usually always worked and actually turned into a good opener. here it is...
 
hey can u spell silk?
 
s i l k
 
ok now say it five times fast
 
silk. silk. silk. silk. silk
 
ok so what do cows drink?
 
milk.
 
noooooo. they drink water dumby. good job. wannna try again? then u do it the same way but when u get to the end u ask what do cows produce. good chance she wont catch that and say water. then u bust her again. its great, my favorite one on the beach if ur in a goofy  mood. easiest one if thats not too difficult would be like hey do u no where the pelican hotel is? and transition.


novice - member
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Love the silk one ;) 

For guys not yet confident that they can open everything, it pays to memorize a few (5) opener threads related to different situations, that way you always have a relevant one to spontaneously pop out. 

Transitioning using a cold read is great, especially if you used an opinion opener, because that way you can pick some arb truism and explain that the way she answered means something about her. Keep links between topics, but always steer the conversation to your next topic.

If you haven't quite got the set hooked it doesn't help to go into DHV stuff, because they don't trust you yet so that would make you a bit creepy / needy and probably break down your value even more. 

I would think (and this is just a shot in the dark) but if you have opened, hold your ground and ask the rest of the people in the set for their input. THEN WATCH - this isn't good PUA, it's social 101: hang back and pick up on what they say to each other, notice how people will often trigger off something you said and add their own story... But this is crucial - as soon as you get the hang of it or think you can enter the conversation, add your own bit of the story. This will (to an outsider) make it look like you're one of the group, and the group will reverse-justify this fact.

Please note this is useful for guys trying to figure out opening and moving on, but once you know how others transition you should be stepping up and take the lead again. Hope it helps!

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