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Re: HBSmart
« Reply #74 on: August 29, 2006, 10:39:22 AM »

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Quote from: "asmokindeal"

It felt like we were breaking up. She was so caring and nurturning through this whole process. She did not want to fuck me up in the head. We started walking to the corner and I said I wanted to see her again. She said she wouldn't see me romantically.
Me: You didn't feel anything for me.
HB: I was intriqued by you. You were very unique.
Me: I felt like you were attrackted to me.
HB: When, how could you tell?
Me: You were leaning into me, playing with your hair, asking lots of Q's.
HB: Blushes, Yes you had me.Me: When did I lose it?
HB: When you started holding my hand too much. (that was also around the time she asked if the opener was fake. give or take 30 seconds).
Me: I feel a really strong connection to you. Can we see each other again?
HB: I don't see anybody romantically.
Me: Why, did you have your heart broken?
HB: I'm a VIRGIN.
(Very emotional moment)
Me: Did you think that's all I wanted you for?
HB: I don't know. No, not really.
(She gone on with her your special, you'll do fine, your good patter)
Me: Do you believe in love at first sight?
HB: No, I think you can grow to love someone.
(This is all feeling like a break up. She is not rushed and I can tell that she is HUGELY let down. She was REALLY into me. She doen't want to hurt me. We have a genuine emotional bond, I feel like I can tell her anything)
HB: I hope we cross path again. I would like to see you again I just want it to be serendipity.
Me: I don't even know you name (how could I get so far in without even asking her name?)
HB: Big beautiful smile as she turns and walks away.

That's not exactly what happened...

After she told me that she was a V (virgin) I said "I'm a virgin too" (true). She almost fell over
HB: Your lying, now I know your lying.
Me: I swear to god. I can prove it. (I pull out my cell phone)
HB: No I believer you, I don't want to talk to anybody. (it is about 3:30 in the morning).
Me: Do you really believe me?
HB: No, not really.
(We stand there for a quite moment)
HB: How come your a V? (She is very confused, 2 minutes ago she is convinced that I am a man-whore that she doesn't trust herself around and isn't good for her and is bent on her vaginal destruction)
Me: I was waiting for marriage. Why are you a V?
HB: I havn't found the right person. Why are you in bars talking to girls I don't understand. What are you looking for? (She is still very confused, almost disoriented).

We talk for a few more minutes about our connection but my frame is shot and I didn't realize untill later that she wanted me to sweep her off of her feet by taking controll. She didn't want to leave. Everytime she started to walk away and I re-iniated the conversation she moved right back over to me and started engaging in the conversation again.

Now I think about this chick all the time. I have been going out and running awsome sets but I am really just walking around the area where I met her all night looking for her in any of the dozen bars in walking distance. Last night I went out but didn't open a single cold set.

I have oneitis over a chick I don't even know. :cry: I think it is part fantasy and part real connection. I always hoped I would lose my V to a V. One of the reasons that I stopped waiting was because I am getting way to old to be a V and for it to anything but pathetic (twentyfuckingeight). Kids these days lose their V around the age of 13 so there arent many of them out there my age or over the age of 21ish. So I find this chick make a huge connection with her and find out she's a Virgin. I don't think she is a soul-mate or anyting like that but we hit it off huge.

My delima is that I am afraid that I will see this chick in a week or two and she's going to ask me "are you really a virgin?" I will then reply "I was the night I met you but I fucked a randon stranger just last night as a matter of fact." And lose out on any chance of ever having this chick.

My game is getting pretty good and its only a matter of days if not hours before I will get "lucky". Every time I hook a set I bring the chick to a magical place where they stop looking around, looking at their watch, re-filling their drink, looking at their phone and are just mezmorized.

This all came to a head last night when I was at one of my regular places and the hired gun waitress (HB8) dressed up in her sexy outfit number closes AND set up a day 2 for thursday. :wink: With me! She just said "what are you doing thursday?"
Me: Why?
HB: I want to hang out with you.

Holy shit that has never happened to me in my entire fucking lifetime.
2 weeks ago getting laid was a fantasy, now it feels innevetable. Also we are meeting at a place where I am very socially proofed. I'm not saying this chick is going to want to fuck me that night or anyting but It could happen.

I think that's about all.

Asmokindeal

PS. If you feel like talking shit, it better be original. :wink:

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Good stuff! Its really nice and helpfull to read about some of the issues I have come across trying to start this thing up .. and reading how you deal with them. Respect for the dedication you showed, it makes me wonder if I have the same desire to see it all through.

MM

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Just a thought I had while strolling around mulling about your last post (even though its probably ancient history for you, I figured this might be interesting for others who happen to come across this post like me).

The way you describe the meeting shows some sense of loss, I think you made a real connection there. However my thoughts are about your dilemma:
In my own words, I read that you feel that by following "the game" you will "lose the chance of ever having this chick". I see this a bit differently though. Without following your game you wouldn't have been out there exposing yourself to new people and seeking out new relationships or interactions. Just by doing that you met this girl and even though it didn't work out, maybe because your "social calibration" was off, maybe because you should have done this or that .. it doesn't matter. It feels like a small victory just by achieving that and seeing that this way of spending your time can result in this meaningful interaction. So what I'm trying to say is .. I think its definitely a positive experience, which I would see as a movitvation of keeping this up!

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Thank you for this. You've definitely had some success and come a long way (based on your posts).

It is a testament to the value of persistence. I'll try to learn from you in that respect.

Best,
David

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« Reply #77 on: August 29, 2006, 02:36:09 PM »

Quote from: "Luxberry"
just out of curiosity were you really waiting until marriage or was that game?

because if its true, that is a REALLY strong reality you can bring a chick into.

Lux, That made my fucking day dude.  Yes I was waiting for marriage and passed up many many opportunities to get laid in High School (girls laying on their back nacked spread wide saying "fuck Me :twisted: ")

Yes that was a really strong frame of mine.  I used to live by that rule.  I watched person after person lose the v that promised me that they would wait.  It used to really bug me.  Over the years I realized that I was a big pussy and I didn't have a choice in the matter anymore (getting laid).  I was fat, going bald and couldn't even talk to chicks

I can't believe that I am 28 and havn't ever had my dick in a pussy.  I started to question what my parents had taught me about all of this bullshit and realized that it was simply a form of control.  I had lived a life where I was being controlled and not living the life that I wanted to live.  (I have always had a huge sex drive).

It took me 2 years of internal dialogue before I decide that I decided I didn't want to wait anymore and about 1 year after that that I decided to start looking (I felt like I was ready to deal with it emotionally).  I am still concerned that It will have an emotional toll on me because It was my mantra for about 25 years.  I used to persuade my friends to wait for marriage.

My parents met in bible college and they were both each others first boy and girl friends.  They waited for marriage.  I grew up in church.

I don't hold those views anymore about the virtues of waiting (maybe if your young and you want to get married, like it did).  I don't want to get married anymore.  That could chang but  I don't believe marriage is natural at this point.  I think it is anouther form of control.  I believe in hanging out untill you are sick and tired of her shit and then its time to start shopping for a new model.

It is probably the best way to raise a child though.

I really love woman and all of their confusing and irrational sides however.  I have always really really liked woman.  I was the first kid in my class to chase down girls on the playground and try to kiss them.  I even made a comment when I was in like first grade about how I liked the lady swinging from the trapezze on TV (I can still remember her tight blue outfit).

I want to get to the point where I spend my time with many very beautiful woman.  I love the way they get in comfort.  I like the idea of having choice.  These last two months have been the happiest of my life.  And the last week I have had butterflies and huge energy 24/7.  Ask anybody that has hung with me in the last week.  They will confirm the difference.

I know one thing for sure.  I don't want to grow old and wish I could have fucked a 10.  

-Asmokindeal

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« Reply #79 on: August 30, 2006, 03:30:13 PM »

Quote from: "Luxberry"

we'll meet up this weekend sometime, dont worry i wont be drunk and spitting on girls! haha

LMFAO, that was so funny.  She got up and moved her chair 2 feet away from you. lol

I went down to Mill Last night and more of the save AFC bullshit on my part.  I only opened 1 set that went ok.  I was really working on ignoring the target and working the 2 obstacles.  Target was a 7.  I am really trying to focus my energy on ignoring the target and showing her IOD's and gaining the obstacles liking.

Set went ok but I kind of alienated the target and she was unresponsive and basically killed the mood.  I don't care though.  I'm trying to get calibrated.  That was the first time I think that I have ever really done it the way I thought it should be done and I didn't wimp out and start working the target too soon.

My frame for the last couple of days has been "Find HB Smart".  This is fucking up my game.  I havn't really passed up any money sets though.  I have walked past moving sets.  I actually did find HBSmart.  It took me about 10 minutes on MySpace doing serches with the info she provided me about her age, school and nationality.  Turns out she is a model.  I am positive it is her because she has a lot of pictures on her page and all the stats are identical.  She had a very pecular way of parting her hair.

I sent her a message and I havn't heard back.  Talk shit if you want, just make me laugh ok! :lol:

I have a couple of little girly's working but nothing seems as strong as it did the night I number closed it.  I get tired of trying to not look needy by spacing out phone calls with a day in between.  Waste's a lot of mother fucking time.  I basically have about 4 girls that I am interested in and have their numbers.  I may be going out with the one on the top of that short list tonight.  I am not sure.

I will contact them and they seem excited to see me but I have absolutey no motherfucking day 2's.  How the fuck can that be?  I am probably slipping into LJBF's with a couple of them.  They are all so fucking busy.  A couple of them have 2 jobs and go to college.  I will call them and they will turn me down for the day 2 and rather than look needy and say "when would be good for you?" like a tool, I try to play if off like It didn't matter one way or anouther.  How do you set up shit with girls with hectic schedules with out making it look like you are available to them and are chasing them by rearranging your schedule for them like a pussy?

It could be that they don't want to hang out and that is really frustrating because all of my numbers are good numbers that were given in solid comfort after a lot of attraction and A3 material.

One of the things about my game that has been lacking is qualifying them.  I worked on that last night with a hired gun.  I was sitting outside sweating my ass off and she came back out to see me.  Her excuse was it was cold inside.  I had been qualifying her when she had to go away and take an order.  She wasn't even my waitress.  LOL it was like 100 fucking degrees outside!  

I just had a thought.  It could be pretty powerful to try and pawn the waitress and treat her like an obstacle.  Then try to game the waitresses in close proximity.  If they keep comeing back to your table but arent trying to earn a tip it may be closer to real game.  Not as many fake IOI's and such.  That is what happened last night and I ran pretty solid game on her.  Didn't get the number because I had to split out of there to meet someone after losing track of time but I think I can get it next time.

The other problem is that I will set up a day two but I stood up or it is contingent on me calling them to remind them and they don't answer.  So basically they were set up too loose or they were just bullshit from the very start.

My gut tells me that they are shitty numbers.  I am having to work too hard to see them.  If they were interested they would be investing more.  I am not qualifying and doing enough push pull.  I am being too easy.  They love me to death when they give me the number but later it was too easy for them and they lose interest.

Anybody have any input?

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« Reply #85 on: August 31, 2006, 10:11:50 AM »

Dammit Gravity,

I spend to much damn time staring at your avater (do you think I could find her on myspace :wink:)  

Poelectrix,

You make some good points.  (I'v been working on that  :wink: )I went out last night with the intentions of not looking for HBsmart but I couldn't resist.  I did however open a bunch of awsome sets and had a great time and for periods of time (sometimes hours) I didn't think about the fantasy woman.

I reopened a hottie that I had number closed a week ago (remember airplane girl gravity?  HEY, GRAVITY, OVER HERE, STOP STARING AT YOUR AVATAR!!! Tongue )

I didnt' number close last night but I did practice some multiple threading for the first time.  I stayed probably 10 minutes past where the cockblock obstacle wanted me to leave.  Even generated a fair amount of attraction from the target.  Number close went down in flames.

Gamed a very hot little model that is going to be on the cover of 411 magazine this month.  She pulled up to us and asked us for directions and I had her sitting there for probably 10 minutes with cars driving around her while I was stacking material and running all kinds of good shit.  Found out she was a model by saying "Tell me something cool and then I will tell you where the freeway is." Cheesy  Number close went down in flames but I saw that comeing, not enough IOI's.

Short post today,

Asmokindeal

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« Reply #90 on: September 05, 2006, 02:21:02 PM »

This weekend I made some headway but it doesn't hold the same weight as prior success of the same caliber did.

Highlights:

1.  I number closed a hired gun that I have been gaming for a little while now.  She is a 10 in my book and I have been extremely attrackted ed to her from the minute I first saw her.  I really like this chick.

2.  I spent an hour gaming a chick that I met a while back that is also a bonna fide 10.  This chick is a fucking monster hottie.  I walked by her on my way to a bar.  She is a model.  She was walking her dog and we sat on the sidewalk and talked while her little dog ran around.  I didn't run solid game however.  I didn't do enough attraction material on her and went for comfort too soon.  Didn't go for the number because I have seen her with some regularity and I know where she walks her dog.  I can re-open this next time and run solid game.

3.  Ran a great set with =SkyNet= in Tempe.  I number closed her and have talked to her on the phone breifly twice.  She was probably a 6-7 but she was interesting and I am not too picky at this stage in the game.

4.  Ran into two seperate number closes at different times and got big "bump to my junk" hugs (credit "Smooth").  Both let out little moans as they wrapped their arms all the way around my neck to hug me.

HUGE FUCKING STICKING POINT:  Setting up Day 2's.  Limitless talked to me today on the phone about this and he said that they aren't in state when I call them back and I have to re-game them to build up attraction again.  I really like this idea.  Does anybody have any suggestions for phone routines/material?

I also am working on a "Pre-Sarge Routine" to get me into frame.  I put together a bunch of picture of hot chicks that I have number closed and where they are kissing/posing with me.  Also a few pieces of music that get me pumped and a video of me flying my plane fucking money Asmokindeal style!  It is all in my PDA Phone and I go over it as I am in my car at the venue.  I am going to write a PUA-mission statement to read before I step out of my car and be super Alpha.

I am getting really good at getting into a great energy state for sarging.  I am litterally walking around tingling most of the night because I think about all of the positive things going on in my life and the highlights from the last couple of weeks and the things that chicks said to me when they were in attraction.  Just thinking about it makes me feel money right now.   :twisted:

I want to do a little more work with wings her in the near future.  The last two weeks I have been lone wolfing it and really making some headway.  I would love to find a compatible wing to work with though.

I am thinking of starting a new website:  www.wingHarmony.com   :wink:

Here would be my profile at wingharmony.com

ME:
I am into sarging a LOT.  I like to work quiet patios and bars.  I usually go to Mill Avenue and walk around all night going from bar to bar looking for money sets to open and instant date right then and there.  I don't stop and buy drinks or bullshit too much with anybody unless it is a target rich environment.  If there are no targets I usually walk right back out like I was just looking for my friends.  I like to open at least 5 sets and  upwards of 20.  It depends on wether or not I get an Instant date.  I am working on building a social-Proof network of hired guns so that when I enter a venue I can be seen hugging the hot waitresses.  To date I have number closed 6 hired guns on Mill.  I hate Old Town Scottsdale and loud environments...I will not work them right now.

YOU:
Willing to walk about 1-3 miles a night going from bar to bar on Mill or somewhere that is target rich.  You will be able to open every other set with me and abide by the wing rules at all times.  You will probably not be able to hang with me because I will want to constantly move venues if there aren't any targets or if it is too loud.  You would rather open sets than talk about opeing sets and you will refrain from critiquing me in field unless I ask for it or it is in our end of nigh debreifing.
If you are from out of town, its our first time going out together or are a newbie I will relax these rules considerably but you must be willing to open sets.  Even if you only say "Hi" to strangers.

4 THINGS I CAN'T DO WITHOUT:
1.  Frequent Venue Changes in search of Targets.
2.  Staying in ACTION and opening sets even if they are only UG's and it just to give them a high 5.
3.  Quiet patios.
4.  The freedom to FUCK EVERY FUCKING SET UP AND HAVE FUN DOING IT.

(Yea, I am kinda psychotic and OCD but I am making HUGE gains every hour that I am in the field, and having the time of my life  Cheesy )

Later fellow cat chasers

Asmokindeal :twisted:

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« Reply #92 on: September 05, 2006, 05:07:05 PM »

Quote from: "AFCtoPUA"

By the way, by changing venues often, I find that you keep your AFC-self from popping up with self-negs.  The other night I was all over the place, leading the way from one place to another and feeling in charge very much helps you remain alpha.  Especially when it matters most, opening sets.

Absolutely, its easy to look alpha when you are walking.  I try keep moving constantly.  I am either opeining a set, walking through the venue or walking to anouther venue.  I try to use awsome body language and be as Alpa as I can.  I typically will only make one or two passes.  I don't walk around in circles like a hungry animal.

It's really hard to be alpha when you are sitting down drinking a beer by yourself.  I will defenantly hit you up this week.

Asmokindeal

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« Reply #93 on: September 07, 2006, 10:54:54 AM »

Last night had it's ups and down but I think I made progress.

Started out with Limitless.  We went to one of my spots where I have number closed a few of the hired guns.  One of them, HBPissy was pissed off at me and I unfortunately found this fucking hilarious.  I guess it feels good for a female to feel something for me even if it is a negative emotion.  I stirred something in her and I don't know why she is so fucking upset.  LOLOLOLO :twisted:  We had a great time and laughed the entire time we were there.  

One of the other hired guns HBSweet, the one that number closed me and HBPissy's close friend waited on us.  I like this girl even more than HBPissy.  I almost lined up a day two with her after work untill she realized that HBPissy was supposed to come over after they get off of work and its a drive for her.  It was probably just a ploy.  

I am spending WWAAAAYYYYY to much time trying to re-work my hired guns.  It is almost like a pacifier.  I can go around and suck on them for a little while and take me away from my real work of opening new sets.  

Later I was with Limitless and Smooth and I ran across the hottest girl that I have number closed...HBCuteAsShit10  I got the digits on Friday and it was Wednesday last night (it had been 5 days).  This girl is a fucking princess.  We came across her at a club.  I was in set and these girls kept looking at me.  After my set was over I walked over and realized who it was.  She had gone to Vegas for the first time this weekend and I opend up the whole set of 5 and just took the mother fucker over.  I told this funny story about Vegas and spent about 5 minutes being the center of attention.  They were giggling and having a good time.  I ejected while the energy level was high and she was telling them how cool I was at Magic.  I introduced myself to everybody.  

About halfway in Limitless came in and social proofed me.  I am hopeing that all of that was a DHV and can get me over the hump.  I don't have a real emtional connection to this chick however I think she is the cutes thing on planet earth right now.  

I eventually ran into Sunslayer in set and I social proofed him.  We want around for a little while but didn't get much accomplished because we stopped for a snack and you guessed it our waitress was a girl I had number closed in the past.  I am such a sucker! :lol:   In case you were wondering this was no coincidence.  

I need to get back to basics and start re-opeing sets in mass.  That is where I start to make my largest gains in my game.  When I am opening sets awsome things happen.  When I stop to try and work my pipeline I get frustrated and desperate.

If I can offer anybody any fucking advice at this point in my PU career.  "Stop analyzing your results and go open some fucking sets already" Cheesy

The absolute funnest time I have had to date was when SunSlayer and I used to go out and just open lots and lots of sets.  Up to 15 a night.  We decided to stop analyzing the results and to just stay in action.  We would laugh like a couple of little girls at a backyard tea party.

Vellers told me something valuable last night too.  "Your possibly trying too hard.  Try to find pleasure in all things"

So the list of PUA that I hung with last night:
Vellers
Smooth
Limitless
SunSlayer

It was a fun night.

The list of HB/Hired Guns I looked for/regamed last night:
HBSmart
HgPissy
HgSweet
HgCoconut
HgSurferGirl
Hg/HBSincere
HgKitty
HBMonsterFuckingHot

Holly Shit I have OctoItis!!!!!!!!!   (8 HB's)

I am a sick man and I need treatment!  LMAO  I guess admitting that you have a problem is the first step.

Asmokindeal

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« Reply #96 on: September 07, 2006, 04:21:41 PM »

I've decided to use the Anthony Robbins Personal Power 30 Day Program in conjuction with PU.  The program has 30 dvd in which every day you listen to the daily cd and he gives you an assignment.  

I am excited about this because it is a general program and it will force me to think critically about my game from a different perspective.

I follow directions and instruction excellently and I think this is going to make a huge difference.  I could just follow the StyleLIfe Challenge but I am psyched about doing this and want to see where it takes me.

Assignment number 1

Quote from: "Anthony Robbins"
Think of two actions that you need to do but you have been putting off that would immediately improve the quality of your life.  Take action immediately toward the progress of the action.

What if I fail?  Then fail big! Go for it!

1.  No more lone wolf  re-gaming of Hired Guns.  In other words I can’t go into Hooters where I have 4 number closes to try and get it to the next level without a pivot or a wing.  If we do go in we have to set a time constraint and stick to it.  
2.  I MUST open 12 sets every night I enter the field.  The only exception is if I get an Instant Date.

I am starting this tonight and will be opening 12 sets.  I would also really like to get good at bouncing girls over to where I am socially proofed via hired guns that I have number closed.  This is like killing two birds with one stone.   :twisted:

I feel re-committed Cheesy

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« Reply #97 on: September 08, 2006, 09:48:29 AM »

Quote from: "asmokindeal"

Assignment number 1

Quote from: "Anthony Robbins"
Think of two actions that you need to do but you have been putting off that would immediately improve the quality of your life.  Take action immediately toward the progress of the action.

What if I fail?  Then fail big! Go for it!

1.  No more lone wolf  re-gaming of Hired Guns.  In other words I can’t go into Hooters where I have 4 number closes to try and get it to the next level without a pivot or a wing.  If we do go in we have to set a time constraint and stick to it.  
2.  I MUST open 12 sets every night I enter the field.  The only exception is if I get an Instant Date.

Last night was very interesting.  I started out will Vellers at a Medeteranian restaurant where they have a salsa dancing lesson every Thursday.  This was the most fun I have had all week.  There are a lot more women than men and they rotate every minute so there is a lot of keno and light conversation.  Its like 20 mini dates.  It fucking rocked.  

Headed down to Mill Avenue to meet up with some guys from the community.  We ended up at a bar and as we walked through I made my way back to the back porch area where it is quiet and there are frequently workable sets.

I spot a 3 set with a dolled up target.  I didn't get a close look at her face but she appeared to be about a 8.5-9.5.  Her two obstacles were not bad looking either.  I opened up the set and ran my opener.  I get about halfway through my first opener when I see my wing man work his way around the oposite side of the table.  I expected him to social proof me or introduce himself to the group but that didn't happen.  Is what did happen is he grabbed the nearest chair and saddled up right next to my target.

He leaned over and started talking to her like I didn't even exist.  I was so shocked that I cut my thread mid sentence and walked back over to a new community member and told him "Holy shit, he just moved in on my target"

I re-opened the obstacle that was to my right she was a solid 7.5 and I figured I would work her since she was still in state from the opener.  I worked her for about 8 minutes and all of the sudden the target and the other obstacle start getting ready to leave.  The entire set leaves and we all get up.

Me:  "Dude you just stole my target."  Delivered with a smile, I really didn't care.
Wing:  Dude, whatever.  like you had a chance with her.
Me:  Man, you can't do that.  I opened that set I had first choice on the target.
Wing:  How am I supposed to know which one is your target?  I'm not going to stand there and watch you spin your wheels.  You didn't have a chance with her.
Me:  That's not the point.  I was in set for less than 30 seconds.  You need to read the wing rules.  You aren't supposed to enter the set untill I let you in.  Dude that wasn't cool.  That was a clear violation of the wingman rules.
Wing:  You think your going to fuck that chick tonight.  I'll bet you $1000.  (extends hand)  I'm here to get laid dude.  Your way too uptight.  I'm not going to sarge with you anymore.
Me:  YOUR NOT GOING TO SARGE WITH ME ANYMORE?  You moved in on my target.  (I'm in total disbelief)  Dude you broke every rule in the book.  Your going to have a hard time getting allong with guys in the community if you keep doing that.
Wing:  FUCK YOU, AND FUCK THE RULES.  I don't follow rules.  I have my own rules and they get me laid.  Your never going to get laid the way you do it.
Me:  Wow, dude that wasn't cool.  I'm out of here (turning and leaving out of the back exit).

I walked down the strip and opened 3 sets and locked in to the last one and talked to an HB6.5 & HB8 for about 15 minutes.  Wasn't getting anywhere and target droped the BF bomb on me very politely so I ejected.  

Walked around for 5 minutes and found SunSlayer.  We went and got some food and worked 2 cute waitresses.  Left and I was looking for my last couple of set.  It was getting really late.  Opened up a two set and worked it for about 12 minutes.  Got tons of IOI's from the obstacle and really none from the Target so I ended up setting up a day 2 for saturday morning and a phone number.

Later

-Asmokindeal

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« Reply #109 on: September 11, 2006, 01:15:17 AM »

Last night I got the LJBF’s line from a chick that I have been gaming.  It really made me sad.  I really liked this chick and I thought she liked me.  I guess she really did like me a lot…as her new bestest duddy.

It got me thinking though.  I have had a lot of “success training”.  I have read hundreds of self help success books on Financial matters, confidence, communication, goal setting, overcoming problems, human interactions, you name it I have probably read a book about how to fix it.  That is one of the things I like about the game.  You can read a strategy and go out and apply it that night.  

One of my favorite quotes is “The bigger the breakdown, the bigger the breakthrough.”  I really believe that if you know what you want and you think about it all the time and you consistently go out and try different strategies you will get closer and closer until you have what it is you wanted.  This whole LBJF’s thing really fucked with my head and I started thinking about why it happened.  I can’t figure it out exactly but I do think that it has something to do with a large inconsistency in the entire image that I am trying to project.

I like to talk about metaphysical concepts in comfort with chicks.  Things like you attract into your life what you think about all of the time and that the world is full of possibilities so it is ok to really dream big and go after what you want.  I really like the idea of “leaving them better than you found them.”  So I try to encourage them and bring them hope if they need it or a little inspiration if they need that.  I know a lot about all of this stuff because I spent the last 10 years devouring it.  I have seen my life come a long way in the last 10 years.

There are two gaping black holes in my identity that I have struggled with for about the last 10 years.  These haunt me on a minute by minute basis and they feed into each other resulting in a negative synergy.  It a horrible downward spiral that I deal with daily.

Gaping black hole # 1…  For the last 10 years I have been horrible with woman.  The last girl I dated and kissed was named Jules and that was almost 8 years ago.  I can still remember it like it just happened a few months ago.  I really believed that you shouldn’t date anybody that wasn’t marriage material.  I learned this from my upbringing.  So I didn’t date anybody.  I didn’t approach a single girl in the last 8 years.  With every passing year I became very very good at not making eye contact, not flirting, not talking or interacting with females I was attracted too.  I would avoid them.  It all made me feel like a HUGE pussy.  The people that knew me would always say “why don’t you have a girlfriend?”  I would just say “I haven’t found the right one.”  But I knew what a fucking pussy I was none the less.

I hated this about myself.  I had such a low self-esteem, I had no confidence, I worried constantly about what other people thought about me.  I was even proud of the fact that I had made my mom proud by not putting myself in any situation where I would be tempted to or have the opportunity to have sex.  I looked down on my two brothers and sister because they had all had pre-marital sex.  A part of me was jealous that I couldn’t just let go of my morals long enough to “accidentally” have sex.  I have always had an enormous sex drive.  I can remember being probably 4-5 years old and being sexually attracted to a woman on TV.

I used to feel very guilty because I had to spank the monkey about 2-4 time a day or I would go crazy.  Today I was watching Cliff’s List Convention 2005 and one the speakers was talking about being Multi-Orgasmic in detail.  I had heard the term but didn’t know exactly what it was.  I have been doing what he described for years.  I thought everybody was doing this.  That’s probably one of the reasons that I have gone so long as a virgin and not needed woman.  I have a great monopolist-sex life.  LOL  (Ok, way to much information I know)

Gaping black hole #2…My weight.  This is the real inconsistency that I talked about.  I talk about all of the universes possibilities and how you can achieve your dreams and I’m this big fat ass.  I’m about 40-50 lbs over weight.  It’s not believable coming from me.  They know that I am full of shit.  If I really believed that stuff why don’t I take better care of my body?  I’m not talking about my looks.  I am talking about excess body fat.  I know that looks don’t matter but consistency does.  It’s like a big fat ass Doctor that smokes cigarettes.  Your don’t believer a word he says.  He is a hypocrite.   He says one thing and does another.

Now the truth is I weighed 260lbs about 1.5 years ago.  I now weigh about 225.  I have lost 35 lbs over that period of time.  This is a huge accomplishment for me and has been very hard.  In fact I would say that I used to be addicted emotionally to food.  I loved to cheer myself up by eating something sweet.  I have pretty much gotten over that.  Really I replaced that bad habit with a good habit…Card magic.  I play with cards about 10 hours a day.  It brings joy into my life and makes me happy.

So the big breakthrough in my thinking is that my words are not consistent with my image.  It is incongruent and fucking up my game.  Not to say that heavy pua’s can’t pull hot babes but it’s not congruent with my image as an inspirational, in control and “insightful” alpha male.  Kind of like you broke uncle that like to give you financial advice.

I am going to get my diet dialed in.  I have been exercising regularly and losing weight but I am not reaching my potential as quickly as I could because of my diet.  I feel bad about the way I look and I blame my lack of success with woman on the way I look so I feel worse.  I want to lose the weight as quickly as I can provided it is healthy.  I am committing to getting my diet dialed in over the next two weeks.  

So who knows, maybe I will look back on this night in 6 months and realize that my first LJBF’s blow to the gut was a turning point for me.  Funny thing is, this chick isn’t even all that special…Probably could lose about 10lbs, has a kid, has a low self esteem, has an asshole boyfriend that she hates but can’t break away from, has a shitty job and she used to party like a rock star every night before she had her kid.  She would have been total drama and bad for me.  I can do so much better.
I feel a lot better after getting all of this out.  I have learned a lot about myself tonight.  This whole process has been 10x harder than I ever thought it would be.

Later,

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« Reply #115 on: September 12, 2006, 10:22:51 AM »

Last night was awsome.

Met up with Limitless, Smooth and Vellers.  We bar hopped for a little while and In total I opened probably 9 sets.

I had two good sets for the night but the last one was the best one.  I opened a two set in a very target rich loud-club like bar.  HBthin (Target) and HBbrunet.  They were both hot girls and probably 9's give or take.  I was really attracked to HBthin from the moment I saw her.  I opened the set and all was going well.  I had attraction and they were enjoying themselves.  

One of them said they had to go to the bathroom.  They both went.  I figured that I was blown out but they did tell me to save their seats because the wanted to keep talking.  I didn't want to stand there like a tool so I immediately opened a nearby set.  I talked with these girls for about 5 minutes and never saw my original set.  

Limitless motioned me to go outside with him and out on the patio was HBthin and HBbrunet.  Limitless re-opened the set and ran money game.  He did the TD PVC devil routine and they ate it up.  His energy level was on and the girls were both giggling and having a great time.  I was just watching him work and absorbing all of it.  I have seen a huge jump in his skills in the last two weeks.  I think he is on his way to getting back to where he was before he took a year off.  I was a little confused as to who his target was but i noticed the moment where he put his body between HBthin and HBBrunet.  He had selected HBBrunet.  

I was so fucking happy because I really liked HBthin.  She had the cutest style and you could eat breakfast off of her stomach.  : )  She was wearing low cut jeans that exposed her hip bones and sat just above her pubes.  I just fucking love that shit!  

We started talking and I did a mind reading trick on her.  It bombed but she had fun the whole time anyway.  I told her to show me something cool.   She pulls her hand up and has her thumb bend backwards around the backside of her hand.  We both started laughing.  She grabs my hand and puts it on her hip/ass and starts rocking to show me that she is double jointed in her hips.  "I am double jointed in both hips"  Oh, my fucking god.  I almost shot man chower all over her right then and there.

We kept talking and we got the conversation into some deeper comfort building.  She told me about what she want to do and some of the crazy shit that has happened to her in the last couple of years.  I asked her about her hobbies and one of them was she was a competative dancer.  I told her that I had been taking salsa dancing lessons.  She lit of an loved that.  She had taken salsa lessons for 6 months before.  

This whole time she is in so close that her tits are rubbing into my chest.  I'm in heaven.  She is leaning way the fuck in so that her mouth is next to my ear.  Eventually her friends start throwing shit at her and trying to drag her away.  She fights them off and tells me to keep talking she wants me to finish what I was saying (and it wasn't all that interesting).  Finally her friends sais "come with me to the bathroom."  

I tell her I can't believe that we met in a bar and that she is the coolest chick I have met in a while.  She sais the same thing basically back to me.  She tells me that she has to go with her friend but that she would be back and to wait for her.  I told her that I had to go but that we should hang out sometime.  

Me:  How can I get ahold of you?
Her:  My cell phone, the number is ###-###-####.
Me:  What are you doing Thursday night?
Her:  Working till 9.
Me:  I'm going to Salsa dancing on thursday:
Her: (eyes bugging out of her cute little head)  CALL ME, I WANT TO GO!!!  REALLY, CALL ME!!!!!
Me:  Ok.  It was really great to meet you (giving her a big hug)
Her:  Totally I had so much fun.

I am really sprung for this girl.  Just when you think that I am going to never meet anything better than my current little heartbreaker.  I meet this chick.  I don't know if it is going to go anywhere but it was an awsome set and I am really really attracked to this girl.  For me she was the hottest girl I saw all night...And I thaught this before I talked to her.
(Thank you 3 second rule)

Also I got a call back from a message I left from a number close from the other day.  We are probably going out tonight together.

I feel really great again. Cheesy

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« Reply #118 on: September 12, 2006, 01:35:07 PM »

Lol, dude if I fuck this chick I will be in some deep shit.  I would have the worst case of one-it is.

Out of the 300 sets I have opened this is only the second one I lost sleep over.  I built comfort with her all night in my dreams.  I was even fighting off would be AMOG's.

: )

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« Reply #124 on: September 15, 2006, 11:47:17 AM »

Pierce,  thanks man.  I needed to hear that.

Last night I was supposed to have a Day2 with HBThin.  She didn't show up.  Killed my frame after I realized that we were past the point where she was just late.  We (smooth, limitless, pierce, vellers and myself) went Salsa dancing and this was supposed to be the day 2 location.

I am bummed out because she returned my call to confirm they would be there.  Oh fucking well.  

I have been reading a lot of TD's stuff lately and I am realizing that I have a lot of this stuff in my head.  I know what I need to do but I let my fears get in the way of what I know I need to be doing.

Things I need to work on:
I need to be more social in the field...with everybody.
I need to do more push/pull.  I can be too nice.
I need to do more keno and sooner in the set.
I need to improve my eye contact.
I need to open in loud environments more.
I need to open in my day to day interactions more.  
I need to stop using the "I don't have the time to run game" excuse during the day when I am out.
I need to start trying for a venue change sooner.
I need to run less A2 material and start getting them to try and chase me.
I need to open more sets.  For every set I open I see 3 that I wished I would have.
I need to learn more C&F material.
Getting day 2's


Things that I am strong at:
Over comeing my AA and pushing into set.
Going out even if I am hung up about something and sarging.
Opening moving street sets.
Getting attraction.
Story telling.
Being very fucking interesting.
Staying in action and not going stale
Getting myself into a money state.
Asking for phone numbers.

Well I gotta run, I have an appointment in 15 minutes.

What should I do about HBthin that stood me up last night?  I am so mother fucking god damned tired of flakes.  When should I call her.

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« Reply #126 on: September 15, 2006, 05:44:48 PM »

I have come up with a new mission.  Open 100 sets a week for the next 4 weeks.  I have noticed by biggest gains come after about every 100 Sets.  I am not talking about just open and eject set work.  I will push every set as far as possible.

Over the next 4 weeks I will focus on a few things:

1.   Continue to eat right and work out regularly.
2.   Have 1 technique, attitude or behavior to work on every day..
3.   Be un-attached to the outcome.
4.   The week ends every Sunday.
5.   Try to get at least 7 hours of sleep every night.
6.   Work on opening sets all day long so it doesn’t overwhelm me.
7.   Make up any lost ground during the week on the weekend.

I would like to see a major breakthrough every week. Including:

•   First Kiss Close
•   First Day Two
•   First Make-out on day 1.
•   Consistently Merging sets.
•   Consistently pulling numbers every night.
•   Consistently manufacturing jealously ploys.
•   FIRST FUCKING LAY

I will post after every day with my numbers.

-Asmokindeal

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« Reply #128 on: September 16, 2006, 04:47:48 PM »

the funniest shit just occurred to me....This is just like a reality tv series where the main character goes around trying to have sex for the first time (Im a virgin). LOL

stay tuned....

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« Reply #129 on: September 17, 2006, 12:09:32 PM »

Last night was fucking awesome.  Started out at one of my regular clubs/bars.  Over the last couple of weeks the GM has gone out of his way to make friends with me.  The last 4 times I have been in there he hooks me up with a shot for free.  He told me last time I was there to never wait in the line.  “Just tell them at the door that your with me”.  So I walk strait past all of the line and the bouncer stops to let me in.  He recognizes me and we are on a first name basis.  

The GM’s head bouncer also introduced me to the Bartender and said “this guys first shot is on the house every night.” : )  Can it get any better? Yes it fucking can.  I was leaving and the bouncer and head bouncer asked where I was going.  I told them I was going to find some chicks.  Head bounder said “bring them back here and your first round is on me.”  SWEET!  Free booze for my sets and me!!!

I walk around for a bit and find a two set.  Run some material for about 5 minutes and say I have the hook-up at club X…Free shot.  We walk over and get past the line with my 2 girls and go inside.  GM sees me and totally socially proofs me an walks us over to the bar and motions the bartender to give us all free shots.  That set didn’t go very far but I was just trying to get girls up there and DHV to the GM and the head bouncer.  I excused myself from that set and hung out for a little while then headed back out.  

As I was leaving I ran into Pierce and Gravity.  We social proofed each other and I told them about my hook-up.  These guys at this club treat me like total VIP when I show up.  It is so fucking cool.  The three set out to find a large group of girls to try and drag back to the club.  We go to another club and I find this cute little HB with a crown on her head on the patio.  (HBcrown8)  I had already seen another bachelor-et party and figured this was one of those.  I opened the target with something about her crown.  We started chatting and come to find out she is with 6 of her friends.  It is her Birthday-Party she just turned 21.

For the next 25 minutes I get to know all of her friends and it is a really high energy environment.  I was really really on.  We are taking pictures, howling, flirting.  It was PUA heaven.  It is going great so I ask if they want to head over to my club.  It takes about 30 more minutes of running back and forth from girl to girl upping and re-upping each of their individual buying temperatures.  Finally 4 of them say “Fuck it, lets go”.  We start walking over there and we are almost there when one of them abandons ship and just turns around.  I am thinking that they are going to follow her but the still want to follow me.  We get up there and I get them strait past the line and inside.  Again the GM Sees me and escorts us over to the bar and motions to the bartender to give us all a free shot.  I am holding HBCrowns hand through the crowd and she is hanging on tight.

Ok, i’m gong to introduce another thread/element.  Earlier that night I started getting mystery text messages from some chick in a flirty manner.  I am flirting back with really random shit.  Finally she tell me who she is.  I know her from the bank where I go.  Next she texts me this:  “At. Discretions.  If you don’t know the place-don’t ask  out 4 the night.  Ttly.  Xgirl”  

That place is a swingers club.  This chick wants to fuck!  But this is all happening right in the middle of my huge set.  I don’t know how to respond so I just hit her back with “ : ) “
This chick is only about a 5.  I am into my target so I want to run that out.  

It gets even deeper.  I number closed a chick last week and we have been talking on the phone through out the week.  I invited her out tonight for a day 2.  Well wouldn’t you fucking know it.  She shows the fuck up…In the middle of my set!  Right in the middle of comfort building with HBCrown I reach in my pocket and pull out my ringing cell phone.  It’s HBhard6…My day2.  She says that she is outside and she will be at the bar in 2 minutes.  I tell her I will come inside and find her.  HBcrown and her friend are like “who is that!”  I say it my friend.  I tell HBcrown to stay put I will be right back.  

I go inside and there is my day to with 2 hot other chicks.  I hook them up with free shots and they start begging me to go to another bar with them.  I tell them I want them to meet my other friends.  We walk outside and I merge the two sets together.  Holly shit that was cool.  HBcrown sees the girls and says really loud so they can hear “these are the friends that you left me to go get?  I like that!”  I could detect a little jealously in her voice but she was playful.  My day to wanted to go because her friends wanted to go to another bar.  I wanted to work HBcrown and so I said good bye.  I had to pull HBcrown out of a group of 5 guys that were now gaming her.  I finally successfully pulled her free and we went back into the corner and started comfort building again.  

Finally her friends said lets go home.  I walked them to where they needed to be and set up a day 2 the next day and got her phone number.  : )   I run into Gamble and Luxberry and we run a few sets and I teach a girl how to dance Salsa at another bar.

I call back my day 2 and she is in a cab leaving.  I could tell she was a little disappointed.  I asked her why she left and she said something about how cute the girls were that I was with and that she didn’t want to invade.  I told her she was crazy in a very playful way and that I really wanted to hang out with her tonight.  She said that she really wanted to hang out with me tonight too.  I could detect jealously in her voice too.  She told me to call her tomorrow and we would make plans.  I said good bye.

To wrap this all up my girl that wants to fuck call me and said she was drunk and that she was sorry.  She asked if this would change anything or make anything weird (I see this girl every day at her work)  I assure that nothing has changed and that she is still cool.
She hangs up feeling better about the whole interaction.  She told me that she thinks that I am really cut and that she blushes every time I come in to her work.  I know that I can fuck this any time I want.  This girl is a freak!

So in conclusion:

My first “Day 2” (she showed up and that is all that counts in my book)
My first sexual proposition
Awesome bounce and number close time bridge.
Totally socially proofed and VIP status at a club. (GM watched me pull 3 sets in)
I am happy,

Asmokindeal

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