Asmokindeal's Newbie Mission Archive

Newbie Mission Journal
« on: June 27, 2006, 03:47:30 PM »

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Starting my Newbie Mission tonight.

3 sets an hour
4 hours a night
4 nights a week
6 weeks

=288 sets

I will keep updating this journal after every day that I go out and keep a running total for all to see.

My week will be from Monday-Sunday.

Wish me luck!

Day 1, 12/12.
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2006, 11:42:27 PM »

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My brother and I went down to Mill avenue and successfully opened 12 sets!

It took me about 25 minutes of walking past perfectely elegible sets before I got the balls up to open one. After the first 3 it was very easy.

All night I opened with the Jeolous girl friend opener. I followed up with the G-String routine and on one occassion I opened a mixed set (2 girls 1 dude) with the 2 part kiss opener.

All in all It was a very successful night. Took me about 2 hours. about 3 or 4 of them just blew me off and kept walking. I was successful with one set of an HB8 & HB9. At one point they even jokingly said that they were bitches. They never at any point were anything but sweet to us though. I had just come out of my mixed set that went great so I felt invincible. I gamed them for about 10 minutes.

No numbers or anything but I felt awsome just getting through all 12.

Quote from: "SuperStar"
You keep doing this on a regular basis and things WILL just start to happen naturally. Keep it up.

That is exactly what I needed to hear.

I went out tonight and completed all 12 but I didn't have as much fun as I did last night. My most successful set was a 3 set, they were young though 17, 17 and 18 years old. LOL

They would have let us stand there and talk all night. They were set #11. I had 1 more after them and it was getting late. We probably talked for 15 minutes.

Last night we went to Hooters to warm up and get chatty. I ran every routine I know and even did a magic trick for our waitress. I totally had her hooked. She had other tables but she kept finishing what she was doing and comeing back to sit down with us.

I know they are paid to do that but I really don't care because it got me in a great mood to go and open sets.

Does anybody else find it helpful to talk to hired guns just to warm up?

I found that I can manage my approach anxiety on 2 girl sets but on mixed sets and 3+ sets I really tense up and look for an excuse not to approach.

Going out tomorrow night again also.

Have a great night guy's.

Day 3, 12/36 total
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2006, 03:17:47 AM »

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Tonight went good. I have very little approach anxiety now. I am able to open sets that would have scared me the first night.

I even opened a couple of mixed set. I am feeling my confidence grow.

I need to work on my negs and not giving the target any attention during my opener.

My game is still pretty loose. There is really no structure to it. I know the structure logically (MM) but I am working on following the system. I guess you could say I still have a pretty weak frame.

It looks like I may be losing my wing man. He has been pretty negative lately and is kind of a downer. He won't be able to stay out late here soon and even when he can come out we arent getting allong very well. I am really making an effort to be positive but he just isn't into it

Anybody want to go out during the week and sarge? I'm going to be out at least twice during the week and on Friday and Saturday night. My committment is HUGE on this. I will go out alone if I have too. I havn't missed a night or come home with less sets than I had originally planned on and I am really happy with my progress.

I can't believe that I have really opened up 36 sets in 3 days. That is more sets than I have opened in the last 10 years.

later

Newbie Mission Journal
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2006, 10:14:42 AM »

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Quote from: "perineum"
Hired guns are AWESOME to warm up on. I tuned up alot of my intros, negs, and routines on hired guns. You'll find that when you get better at sarging, its easier on hotties than on duds.P.

I did the funniest thing with a hooters waitress last night...I do a routine where I show them a trick with poker chips and then I teach them how to do it. They get really into it.

Last night the waitress was really trying hard to do this trick and I had my hands all over her hands. I had to position her fingers, reposition the chips and touch her fingers constantly for about 30 minutes. I've never seen a chick go so crazy trying to master this one trick. I was neging her about her hands a lot too...Clumsey, Man hands, spider fingers, rough.

So after a while I tell her to give me her hands. She did and I started touching the pads on her fingertips. They were a little greezy from all of the food and everything. I said "oh your fingers are gross!" and starting wiping my hands off. She became very self concious and making excuses and blushing. I grabbed a napkin and rubbed the dry napkin all over the side of my water glass and collected the condensation from it. I got the napkin good and wet and then I grabbed her hand. I proceeded to scrub both of her hands with the wet paper towell for about 2 minutes. She just stood there with her hands out letting me scrub them. This was one of the highlights of the night.

After that was done I said "I'll bet you've never had a customer clean your hands before." she started laughing.

Quote from: "perineum"
Make sure to watch your body language when approaching. Always start out with your shoulders and hips turned away from the target and possibly even the set. When they turn towards you, reward them by turning towards them. This was a big eye opener for me.

Keep it up.

P.

I like that, I have also been really working on my tonality when I ask for a female opinnion.

71.36.173.207

2/38 First number Close
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2006, 04:11:11 PM »

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Sets Tonight: 2
Sets Total: 38
Number Closes: 1

I got my first number last night.

I went out to a club but really didn't go sarging officially. I went with some friends and it is so loud you can't even hear yourself think.

later we went to Denny's and I opened a table set with 2 girls. Went pretty good went through 3 routines and bailed back to my friends.

A few minutes later 2 girls came in and sat down. (Both realistically 6's but still attractive) We had 3 tables reserved for a large party and so i was negging them about sitting in our seats. They were ok cute so I wasn't going to tell them to leave. The staff tried to get them to leave but I told them that they were with us.

I started negging the target and running a few different routines. To make a long story short...

At one point I heard heard her tell somebody in our group that I was good looking. I was getting a lot of IOI and she was laughing at everyting that I said. I was really on as far as negging her. She was a good neg target because she was cocky and I can neg the shit out of cocky girls.

As I was leaving she wrote her number and name on a napkin and gave it to me. I didn't even have to ask.

THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED TO ME IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!

Going out tonight but probably to anouther loud club. I have a real problem sarging in loud environments. I am going out Sunday night to a low noise environment to sarge for real. That will complete my first 4 days of sarging for the first week.

Newbie Mission Journal
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2006, 04:41:57 PM »

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Quote from: "SuperStar"
You know you can get a 6's number now (without even asking!). Your next goal is a 7's.

LOL, I love it.

Went out on Saturday night to loud clubs again. Can't talk to people for shit. I opened 1 set and they could hear me better than I thought.

After 2 am we were outside and I was approaching without any fear. I was pretty tipsy though. I opened 6 sets. Most were at least 7's.

I was planning on going out for an official night on Sunday night but on Saturday night I ended up over at my friends brother's house. There was a party there and i didn't sleep all night. Got to bed at 12:00pm on Sunday. So I slept a few hours and went to meet a friend and came back home and tried to sleep again but was just too exhaused to go out.

I will make up for it this week with an extra day of sarging.

Sets Tonight: 7
Sets Total: 45
Number Closes: 1

Newbie Mission Journal
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2006, 03:08:24 AM »

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Day: 4
Sets Tonight: 12
Sets Total: 57
Number Closes: 1

Tonight went pretty good. I was pretty much fearless when approaching sets.

It is starting to be obvious to me where my stopping points are.

1. I am not negging enough. only when the set really hooks.
2. I am not picking a target. I just talk to both in the set and run my routine.

I am not getting hardly any IOI's but I know what I am doing wrong. I am planning on spending a lot of time rehearsing my routines and learning one or two new routines in addition to some negs this week.

On a brighter note. Hardly any sets are blowing out right away like it used to be. I can get even girls that are committed to walking past to usually stop and listen to me.

I still have a lot of work to do though.

Later

Newbie Mission Journal
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2006, 09:24:18 AM »

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Day 5
Sets: 5
Total Sets: 62

Last night was disapointing,

I went out with my wing and by 10:00pm he wanted to go home. I only had 5 sets under my belt. So I went home defeated without my 12 sets.

I was bummed.

I defenantly becoming more and more aware of my biggest sticking point....Negs.

I am way to polite.

What are you guys favorite first couple of negs?

Thanks for the advice about the number closes. I haven't been working that angle at all. In fact I think I have bailed out of a few interested sets after I was out of material. I was simply so focused on what to say that I was oblivious to IOI.

It would occur to me when I would say "later guys" and they would stand there for an extra second like they didn't want me to leave, that It occured to me that they didn't want it to end. After we were gone my wing and I would talk about it.

I am defenantly getting better at projecting my voice and pulling them in even when they are just trying to plow through.

Thanks for the input guys. I really appreciate it.

Asmokindeal

Newbie Mission Journal
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2006, 06:14:51 AM »

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Today was officially the most frustrating day of "sarging"

My "wing" if I can call him that is in Vegas. He went with his friend and I didn't really want to sarge in Vegas just yet...So I stayed in town.

About my wing: He is my younger, much much better looking brother. He is shy but he is very attractive. He isn't really a natural because he is shy but he makes up for it with his looks.

So I was looking foward to sarging all day alone. I figured it would be fun and a new experience. Well easier said than done. I got to the location and I just couldn't do it. I didn't approach even one set. I felt like the biggest pussy.

So I figured I would call my friend to sarge with me. About my friend: A true blue NATURAL. Great looking guy that has been a strip club DJ for the last 14 years. He gets more ass than a toilet seat...without approaching shit.

I was trying to explain to him what to do as my wing. like not face them when we approch, let me run my game and let me introduce him, not give the target any attention at first bla bla bla. He just kinda gave me a blank condesending stare and didn't say anything.

He said he was hungry so we went to a restaurant where we had a pretty cute waitress. I tried to run game but she was so fucking busy and she just wasn't into it at all. Halfway through eating my other friend calls. Burned up an hour at the restaurant and made no approches with him. Bad planning on my part.

Other Friend: Anouther NATURAL, 29 yrs old, (im 28 yrs) good looking, charming, very RICH and he is out on the town driving his red convertible Ferarri. He comes to the restaurant and picks me up in the Ferarri. I ditch my friend that is the DJ at the strip club and we drive up to scottsdale. I am trying to explain to him a little about what I am doing with the approches and the openers and everything and he just doesn't get it.

I spend the rest of the night combating AFC advice from him while we are driving around old town scottsdale in his car. Shit like "just be yourself" "this is out of character for you" "people like you for who you are" "Its all about an attitude" "You sound like a gangster" "Your never going to get laid using that stuff" "That shit (routines, openers, negs) is embarassing" ...and on and on. (this is the same guy that I went out with last night to hook him up with one of my older friends that is a girl and he fucked her 5 times...last night. I originally told this chick to bring me one of her friends when we went out with this friend. Didn't happen. They wanted to head strait back to his house after our little 3 leged stool of a date. I laid in the next room and listened to them fuck all night. This morning he cooked us all breakfast and they went back into the bedroom and I could hear them fuck for the rest of the morning. I wanted to leave but I didn't know how long they would be and he was my ride.)

This whole episode in the car totally deflated me. here I am in Scottsdale standing next to a brand new red Ferarri with hot pieces of ass walking all around us and I am just completed deflated. Didn't approach even one. I tried to explain why I use canned material and it just made it worse. His last piece of advise was "maybe your just not ready for it (relationship, sex, happiness...who the fuck knows)".

So I am convinced that I am on the verge of a powerful breakthrough. I learned a lot tonight:

1. Don't sarge with NON PUA naturals.
2. Don't talk about game to anybody out of the community.
3. I have to get over my fear of sarging alone, immediately.
4. Only sarge with people that are apart of the community.

In a way I feel relieved about all of this. I figured these two friends would think it was cool what I am doing. Not even close. I don't have to talk about this with them anymore.

Come hell or high water I am going to make 12 approaches tomorrow wing or no wing.

Later

PS. Coming home and reading your posts made my whole day. I really appreciate all they you guys said. Am am going to charge ahead.

Newbie Mission Journal
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2006, 12:50:13 PM »

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Day 6
Total Sets: 74
Sets Today: 12

Thanks for the advise SkyNet. Makes a lot of sense.

Had an ok night sarging. I go in all 12 sets but I did half in Tempe and half in Scottsdale. This kinda throws me off a little because the females in Scottsdale are a lot better looking than in Tempe.

I started out alone but I ran into a friend in Tempe. He followed me around and watched me open sets. He is a little shy but is good looking. I was trying to explain what I was doing during the sets and he was pretty receptive.

I am getting better at negging but I still have very weak game after the opening and the first couple of opener routines. I have no DHV stories to relate. I have been hesitant to use other peoples personal canned material for this but I am going to have to start. The only canned material I have heard is from Mystery. Most of his stories are pretty juicy and I don't know if I have the image to pull it off. I have been racking my brain for stories and have come up with a few ideas but I know that I am not calibrated yet and don't know if I am on the right track.

At this point the novelty of just talking to the girls is wearing off and I am getting impatient with my results. I only have 1 number close and I haven't been able to put together any DHV stories. I am a magician but I don't know how to do it in my set without looking Try Hard. So I just leave it out completely.

I have been going out a lot and I am around all of these beautiful girls daily. It used to be just a fantasy thinking about having them but now it feels like I deserve one. It is really frustrating for me now to be talking to a really hot chick knowing that if my game was tight I would have a chance but it isn't tight and It is a long shot at this stage in the game. I will be standing there talking to this really hot little chick and It feels like I am so close but so far away at the same time. The object of my desire is 12 inches from my face but she might as well be on the other side of the street because my game isn't there yet and I can't generate attraction. This is frustrating.

I am going to try to come up with a few DHV stories before I go back out on Wednesday to sarge.

My tonality is getting tight though. I can get most all to stop and they usually will hang untill the awkward pause when I run out of material.
I feel like I am getting so fucking close. I have the skills to get them to talk to me but I don't have the material to keep them interested or attracted. If I can get this one piece down I will make a quantum leap.

Later

Newbie Mission Journal
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2006, 10:30:58 AM »

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EpI had an Epiphany this morning about the other night when I was with my two “Natural” friends. The one with the Ferrari was the most critical. He gets laid but he does a lot of internet dating and hooking up with his friends, friends. He does absolutely no cold approaches.

He wasn’t so much being critical of what I was doing but I think he was trying to defend his passive way of hooking up. It makes him feel uncomfortable that I am doing something that he can’t do and his natural tendancy is to make excuses for himself so that he can still feel good about the passive way he has chosen to get woman.

I also feel like he is a little afraid that I will get a better looking girlfriend than him and gain higher social status. He’s always hooked up with 4-7’s and always said hot chick are superficial bitches. While we were out every time we would see an 9-10 and I would point her out he would say “what a slut” or “look at the way she is dressed, that is embarrassing” or “Scottsdale bitch”. He’s not used to seeing me approach extremely attractive woman and getting them to open up and laugh.

I think he felt like the beta male was catching up to the Alpha male (him) and he doesn’t like that. He is subconsciously trying to sabotage my success. He doesn’t want my social status to change. What if I surpassed him? I have always been his friend that is at probably the lowest social status he will accept in a friend. He feels good about himself when he is with me because he feels like a prince socially.

Just a random thought I wanted to get down on “paper”.

Later.

Newbie Mission Journal
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2006, 10:33:47 AM »

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Note: The above post was submitted by myself Asmokindeal. I forgot to log in.

Quote from: "perineum"
If it was easy and cool to try at something and fail repeatedly to achieve a seemingly impossible goal, everyone would do it. Then everyone would be a player (and rich too).

That is going up on my wall. I like that.

last night I went out and tried to sarge lone wolf. Again I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I walked past set after set. I could't bring myself to open.

I don't know why I can't open a single set by myself. Usually when I am with my wing he doen't do shit anyway. I don't think I was really committed to going all the way.

I'm going out tonight (probably lone wolf) and I will not come back empty handed again.

Later

Asmokindeal

Newbie Mission Journal
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2006, 01:20:52 AM »

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Day 7
Total Sets 87
Tonight 13
Number closes tonight: 1
Total numbers 2

Tonight was officially the best night of sarging.

I went out with a new wing that I met over at MM.com. Sun Slayer.

He is doing his newbie mission as well and now has about 32 approaches under his belt.

We really made a good team. He opened 12 sets and I opened an additional 13 sets for a total of 25 total sets for the night.

Most of our sets went pretty good but my second set I ran like a pro.
Opened with the 2 part kiss opener.
ran probably a total of 6 routines.

The set: HB 8-8.5
beautiful girl.

On my 3 routine I did the esp routine. I hit both numbers and she was going crazy. I kept running routines, probably 2 more when her brother walks up. So I am seriously body rocking out of there. This guy is about 6'2 fairly lean. He has a hot blonde with him and they are both looking at us like "what the fuck is going on here". The target (single set) totally complement introduces me to her brother. She said "Oh my god you got to see this esp trick that he does" I thinking to myself that this is going to blow the whole set up and make me look like a cheap trickster.

So I am totally trying to back out of it when I think of anouther mental magic trick that I know. "I will show you something better" So I ran that routine and it went over even better. After that was all said and done we were saying good0-bye and we introduced ourselves. This girls head was spinning from the routine I just did.

That is when for some reason I was compelled to tell her that I was a magician. She said "I figured something like that" and then she said it "let me give you my number and you can show me some more magic sometime." BAM number. So I got the number and we walked away all smooth.

This was such a confidence builder I cannot even tell you. Not just because I got the number but because I had enought material memorized to do a 20 minute set with her, and I got the number.

Over the course of the next day I am going to memorize and rehearse some negs because that is the biggest hole in my game.

I totally feel like a new fucking man.

Later

Asmokindeal

PS. Being that it is Thursday night when should I call this girl?

Newbie Mission Journal
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2006, 06:14:41 PM »

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Friday Night
Sets Tonight: 10
Total Sets: 97
Day: 8

Tonight was a lot tougher night. We went to Tempe and there were a lot of ugs out there so my brother and I decided to head up to Scottsdale.

don't feel like elaborating right now but most sets blew out.

Newbie Mission Journal
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2006, 11:03:08 AM »

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Day: 9
Sets tonight: 12
Total Sets 109

Last night was a great night. I went sarging with Sun Slayer again. We really have a great energy when we go out together. We are just laughing and having fun the whole night.

So my sticking point has been opeing mixed sets. I just couldn't do it because my AA would take over. It was a very target poor night last night being Wednesday and all and I was telling Sun about how Tyler D approaches PU like a Science and how it is all just sientific experimintation. So we started thinking of different experiments that we could do based on situation that I have felt were impossible like:

1. Opening a set in the middle of an intersection when the girls are walking past you.
2. Opening sets on patios at bars where there is a big fense (from outside the fence).
3. Opening confusing sets (lots of dude's haning out that don't look AFC)

Never go to #1 but the other 2 went over without any hitches.

So, we walked around opening a lot of mixed sets. This was cool because I haven't been able to to this up to this point. Sun opened up a set that looked like the adams family. about 8 funny looking goth, getto, wierd looking people. Went over great.

It is getting a lot more natural for me to be playful and neg our sets. I am feeling a lot more confident and sure of myself in front of females.
Last night was a great night and I can feel that I have moved on to the next level.

Later

Asmokindeal

Newbie Mission Journal
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2006, 04:23:34 PM »

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Day: 10
Sets tonight: 14
Total Sets: 123

Wow, Can't believe that I am at 123 for total sets. I really have the openers down. I have enough memorized routines and material for about 20-30 minutes of fluffing.

The problem is that my game is 1 dimensional. It is superficial and has no substance. I can tease the girls about who is the bad girl and getting them really enjoying themselves and having fun but then I have no follow up. I don't really know if I really know what that follow-up would be or how to transition into it.

I have read the VAH and I know what logically the step is but I am really stuck on this. I had a couple of sets last night where I had the whole set laughing and having a great time but I could not follow through to the next step.

Last night in particular I opened a 2 set (HB9 & HB8). Both beautiful girls. I did the two part kiss opener and that went over ok then I went into "who is leather and who is lace" the one girl was all over it. "I'm leather and she's lace" she said with a huge grin. I did a TD cold read. "You know, you have a good girl face but you keep making these little bad girl mannerisms. They were laughing hysterically. Then I went into who lie's more boys or girls. They were really having a great time.
They were even on the other side of a fence. I was on the outside of a bar talking over the railing on the patio.

I did such a fucking awesome job up to this point and I knew that I couldn't top it or keep the energy up at this level so I totally bailed out of the set. I have been kicking myself the whole day.

So what do you do after you knock their socks off with a tremendous opening set of routines? I haven’t come up with any DHV stories yet but I haven't been trying to think of any lately either. Is that the missing piece for me?

I am so fucking close. I can feel it. I have absolutely no problem getting the set past the social hook point.

What is the next step for me? Anybody have any suggestions?

Sarging w/ Perenium
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2006, 04:26:07 PM »

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Day: 11
Total Sets: 138
Sets Tonight: 15

Sarging w/ Perenium

Great night out and I learned a lot. Perenium is a really great guy that had a lot of in-field feedback. The biggest thing that I noticed and learned is about proper negging. I virtually never neg. I set a new rule that in every set I have to force myself to neg at least once, even if I fuck it all up and piss them off etc.

I am starting to see where the gaps in my knowledg base are where I need to do more studying. I have A1 down cold. My A2 is weak and I have no A3. We worked on DHV stories and cultivating an interesting image.

None of our sets were even notable. Nothing really flew open and we really didn't get into any story telling.

This week I am going to absolutley force myself to do at least 1 neg in every set. I am going to memorize 3 negs to start out with and rehearse them over and over in my head untill I own them.

I will write more about last night later.

Asmokindeal