From: Ivan
Date: Nov 20, 2008JDOG, I hooked with a stripper using the force and it worked. Negs, qualifers, DHV, etc and consequently we were together night after night. However, towards the end I fell in love with her and all my skills went out the door. I went gaga for her. Now she won't call or text me. Any advice? THanks, IvanFrom: JDOG co-host of VH1 The Pickup ArtistDate: Nov 23, 2008WOW Ivan that's a lot of information in a short paragraph!That is a difficult situation. I have dated (loosely using the word) exotic dancers, and they generally are a different breed. If they started out more normal they often change the longer they are in the biz.An old friend in Arizona joined the online community several years go.. learn a bit about routines and being C&F, met an exotic dancer.. overnight got very involved with her.. and we didn't really see him for about 2 years.Fast forward 2 years.. she had a restraining order on him.. she was totally psycho and controlling his life, and had his baby. He was miserable, not going out, barely covering his bills, and taking care of a baby 4 nights a week, when the mother wanted nothing more to do with him and made his life miserable.The bottom line is.. if you are having to run hard core MM on a girl with constant negs, qualifiers etc. AND she's a stripper odds are she's not long term girlfriend material... unless you are willing to live will lots of drama.In your case perhaps there wasn't drama, and perhaps it was good while it lasted. Again, from the limited info.. it's possible that once you started having strong feelings for her you changed the way you acted with her. Gradually of course.So over time you were more catering, and less cocky, more available, and less mysterious.. etc.. many subtle things that gradually made her lose interest.It is usually very difficult to get a girl back, and is far easier meeting new women. Women make decisions and compartmentalise men.sooo it all depends upon what really took place.The rule of thumb would be to go out and socialise and meet new girls! However, If you can't stop yourself from tying to get her back then:1) Realise that you have a small chance of succeeding2) Be willing to lose the girl3) Be unavailable for her4) build a jealousy plot with another girl(s) so that she realises a sense of loss over you.5) Refrain from catering to her, stop being a wus around her, and remind her of what she was attracted to in the first place.. basically regaming with a cocky and playful and challenging attitude.If you pursue in a needy way you will make her less attracted to you. If you try to make her jealous, and she perceives it as being try hard, she will move further away from you.Hope things work out, and be careful what you wish for (corny phrase but true)J.From: Ivan
Date: Nov 24, 2008
JDOG, You are the man! Thanks for the time you invested in my challenge. Overrall, I say you opened my eyes and I see the potential ups and downs.
Funny, I know my chance for success is low but I have to put my hand in the cookie jar one more time. This girl is the shit! So I plan to use the jealousy plot and fratenize with her best friend. Just have to play it right so I don't come off as try hard. THanks, Ivan
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